Trades and Free Agency 2021 Part 2

[stickty111]

Nylander and Roberston for Rakell, Comtois and Grant.
Kerfoot + 1st for Bennett

Thornton Matthews Marner
Comtois Tavares Rakell
Hyman/Bennett Bennett/Engvall Mikheyev/Hyman
Simmonds Spezza Grant
Galchenyuk Engvall

Grant is a very good defensive C, supreme on the PK, one of the best in the league. He and Spezza could take turns at C, maybe Spezza takes the faceoffs, and then plays wing.
But, you've got all kinds of options at C now, for the bottom 2C's... Bennett, Engvall, Spezza, Grant

Comtois is a big, and physical LW, leading Ducks in points, and 6'2" 215lbs, is only 22 years old, so it's not like we are trading for a veteran here... more hits than anyone on our team... 7 goals, 4 assists on an offensively anemic team.
Rakell isn't as good as Nylander, but a bit grittier.

Roberston could be good, but he isn't big, and we could use a Comtois.

Bennett gives us more size and grit, perhaps he sticks at 3C.

For this year, this drops our cap by close to a mil.

Expansion draft becomes a challenge.

The 1st one isn't bad. I'm surprised at the 2nd one. Thats a bad trade for us and I'm surprised it was made by you of all people. I expected others to make that kind of proposal.

 

[Kiwi]

Nylander and Roberston for Rakell, Comtois and Grant.
Kerfoot + 1st for Bennett

Thornton Matthews Marner
Comtois Tavares Rakell
Hyman/Bennett Bennett/Engvall Mikheyev/Hyman
Simmonds Spezza Grant
Galchenyuk Engvall

Grant is a very good defensive C, supreme on the PK, one of the best in the league. He and Spezza could take turns at C, maybe Spezza takes the faceoffs, and then plays wing.
But, you've got all kinds of options at C now, for the bottom 2C's... Bennett, Engvall, Spezza, Grant

Comtois is a big, and physical LW, leading Ducks in points, and 6'2" 215lbs, is only 22 years old, so it's not like we are trading for a veteran here... more hits than anyone on our team... 7 goals, 4 assists on an offensively anemic team.
Rakell isn't as good as Nylander, but a bit grittier.

Roberston could be good, but he isn't big, and we could use a Comtois.

Bennett gives us more size and grit, perhaps he sticks at 3C.

For this year, this drops our cap by close to a mil.

Expansion draft becomes a challenge.

Did you propose we trade Kerfoot and a 1st round pick for Bennett?

So we get to give up a 1st round pick for the privilege of aquiring a worse player at both the center and wing positions

Sometimes you just have to shake your head at what you just read

 

[BertCorbeau]

In a more minor move that could help the top 9 and be more cap friendly, wonder what the cost of Bobby Ryan might be.

 

[Cor]

The 1st one isn't bad. I'm surprised at the 2nd one. Thats a bad trade for us and I'm surprised it was made by you of all people. I expected others to make that kind of proposal.

That first one is also bad.

Nylander is better than Rakell and Robertson is more valuable than Comtois.

All for Derek Grant?

 

[Fogelhund]

The 1st one isn't bad. I'm surprised at the 2nd one. Thats a bad trade for us and I'm surprised it was made by you of all people. I expected others to make that kind of proposal.

I realized that when I was out walking the dogs... I thought, hold it a second... that just isn't good at all. LOL... oops.

 

[Fogelhund]

That first one is also bad.

Nylander is better than Rakell and Robertson is more valuable than Comtois.

All for Derek Grant?

In no way is Robertson more valuable than Comtois.

 

[Cor]

In no way is Robertson more valuable than Comtois.

Why? Because of 11 points in 30ish games last year? 11 in 20ish this year?

Robertson has a higher ceiling. He’s already further ahead than where Comtois was at the same age.

Robertson will be the better player. Anywhere we can put Comtois we can put Robertson

 

[WTFMAN99]

Why? Because of 11 points in 30ish games last year? 11 in 20ish this year?

Robertson has a higher ceiling. He’s already further ahead than where Comtois was at the same age.

Robertson will be the better player. Anywhere we can put Comtois we can put Robertson

11 in 19 isn't bad. I think we'd say they're both middle 6 guys that bring some different elements.

 

[New Liskeard]

Why your not losing anything .

So acquiring a promising young right handed D only to loose him in the ED is "not loosing anything?" Ill say this, Im no fan of Nylander but 1.5 years of Forsberg does not equal 5 years of Nylander.

 

[Critical13]

In no way is Robertson more valuable than Comtois.

Fogel...I love your posts, man...but I just can’t agree with some of your valuations in this thread.

 

[Advanced stats]

Y'all make things so complicated when we just need Rakell and Staal

 

[Menzinger]

In a more minor move that could help the top 9 and be more cap friendly, wonder what the cost of Bobby Ryan might be.

The historical trade comparisons for Granlund is a 2nd + 3rd.

So less than that.

 

[stickty111]

I realized that when I was out walking the dogs... I thought, hold it a second... that just isn't good at all. LOL... oops.

No worries

 

[stickty111]

That first one is also bad.

Nylander is better than Rakell and Robertson is more valuable than Comtois.

All for Derek Grant?

Thinking about it, yeah I don't like that one either.

 

[Magic Man]

Nylander and Roberston for Rakell, Comtois and Grant.
Kerfoot + 1st for Bennett

Thornton Matthews Marner
Comtois Tavares Rakell
Hyman/Bennett Bennett/Engvall Mikheyev/Hyman
Simmonds Spezza Grant
Galchenyuk Engvall

Grant is a very good defensive C, supreme on the PK, one of the best in the league. He and Spezza could take turns at C, maybe Spezza takes the faceoffs, and then plays wing.
But, you've got all kinds of options at C now, for the bottom 2C's... Bennett, Engvall, Spezza, Grant

Comtois is a big, and physical LW, leading Ducks in points, and 6'2" 215lbs, is only 22 years old, so it's not like we are trading for a veteran here... more hits than anyone on our team... 7 goals, 4 assists on an offensively anemic team.
Rakell isn't as good as Nylander, but a bit grittier.

Roberston could be good, but he isn't big, and we could use a Comtois.

Bennett gives us more size and grit, perhaps he sticks at 3C.

For this year, this drops our cap by close to a mil.

Expansion draft becomes a challenge.

I'm 100% sure this is sarcasm that no one picked up on.

 

[hullsy47]

So acquiring a promising young right handed D only to loose him in the ED is "not loosing anything?" Ill say this, Im no fan of Nylander but 1.5 years of Forsberg does not equal 5 years of Nylander.

Depends who u resign in 1.5 years.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Nylander >> Rakell (extra > because of term)
Robertson >= Comtois
Grant

I shook my head at the 1st deal though can understand the intrigue of Comtois. Then I saw the Kerfoot + 1st for Bennett and literally said what the hell out loud.

I'm intrigued by Arvidsson TBH. Though I'd imagine the cost is probably more than I'd be willing to stomach.

 

[VanW27]

Why are so many people convinced depth players on other teams are somehow quality top 6 options on the Leafs?
Bennet is bad enough but at least he's a bad 3rd liner to good 4th liner with hints of something more
Lemieux isn't even a quality 4th liner on a bad team

 

[IrishInOntario]

Not sure why people are calling for Nylander or Robertson to be moved in a Rackell trade...

To Ducks
Pierre Engvall
Rodion Amirov
Draft Pick

To Leafs
Rickard Rackell, retained to match Engvall's salary.

To Sabers
Draft Pick
Prospect

To Leafs
Eric Staal, retained as neccessary

Thornton / Matthews / Marner
Nylander / Tavares / Rackell
Hyman / Staal / Kerfoot
Mikheyev/ Spezza / Simmonds
Boyd

Go compete for the Stanley Cup.

 

[APV]

Oilers yet to talk contract with Larsson — The Fourth Period
Pagnotta says Leafs are keeping an eye on the Preds. Leafs had interest in Haula and Granlund in the off season.
Also like the little shot by Pagnotta at the Nylander critics

This article suggests leafs trading Kerfoot for Haula & Granlund.

What does everyone think of that swap? Seems to make sense when Pagnotta broke it down.

 

[Rielly4]

Amirov and Robertson are potential ELC cheap top 6 players. Thats so valuable to us why would we trade that away. What we need is a stop gap top 6 guy, maybe Palmieri?

 

[Mattavarner]

Not sure why people are calling for Nylander or Robertson to be moved in a Rackell trade...

To Ducks
Pierre Engvall
Rodion Amirov
Draft Pick

To Leafs
Rickard Rackell, retained to match Engvall's salary.

To Sabers
Draft Pick
Prospect

To Leafs
Eric Staal, retained as neccessary

Thornton / Matthews / Marner
Nylander / Tavares / Rackell
Kerfoot / Staal / Mikheyev
Robertson or Galchenyuk / Spezza / Simmonds
Boyd

Go compete for the Stanley Cup.

Lineup needs more Hyman

Thornton Matthews Marner
Rakell Tavares Nylander
Hyman Staal Kerfoot
Mikheyev Spezza Simmonds

 

[BlueForever75]

When Simmonds comes back in a couple of weeks all will change. The team once again will be competitive in the tough areas with other teams not taking liberties with our players.

Missing him and Hyman shows what the Leafs need.

 

[aingefan]

This article suggests leafs trading Kerfoot for Haula & Granlund.

What does everyone think of that swap? Seems to make sense when Pagnotta broke it down.

If it was available, I’d be for it. That 2-1 is a good fit for now and seems like an OK use of an asset that may be lost to expansion, anyway.

Though I sheepishly admit that I didn’t bother to read the artice to see if other parts were included.

 

[TML1967]

In no way is Robertson more valuable than Comtois.

I think this is not as hot as a take as people think.

Comtois is a supper aggressive forechecker, really good defensive forward.
He has the pedigree, Canadian Jr Gold Medal
His 11 in 19 may seem good, but you need to remember he is leading his team in scoring

In his draft + 2 season (so age is the same as Robertson) he had 7 points in 10 NHL games, and 9 points in 12 AHL playoff games.

The biggest difference is Robertson is two years younger, 4 inches shorter, Robertson has been better offensively so far, Comtois is the much more physically imposing and defensive player, and has 2 more years on ELC (if he burns the first year now).