Proposal: Trade Thread Part 68

[Tanknation]

Dallas needs offence and need wingers. I wonder if something around Drouin for Lindell could work.

Ah yes, the Dallas GM really must be thinking, "hmm, we desperately need to acquire headcase Drouin and his 2 goals in 50 games to really help our offence guys."

If the GM in Dallas was Marc B the clown I'm sure he would think that way. But no GM is as dumb as the clown.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Dallas needs offence and need wingers. I wonder if something around Drouin for Lindell could work.

That's an easy pass for Dallas.

Drouin sucks. If we can get a 7th for him, we take that and run

 

[Tanknation]

That's an easy pass for Dallas.

Drouin sucks. If we can get a 7th for him, we take that and run

7th is being generous. Does the NHL draft go up to 12 rounds still?

 

[MTL-rules]

That's an easy pass for Dallas.

Drouin sucks. If we can get a 7th for him, we take that and run

Nope, bad read IMO of the market, someone like Drouin who is a 50pts scorer in normal conditions, willl fetch more. Don't let your hate/disapointment of his play cloud your judgement.

His value would have been a lot higher before so it sucks to try to trade him now, but I'm done with him so be it. I mean if Galchenyuk can get us a Domi, Drouin can surely get more than a 7th rd pick.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Columbus most likely will move laine no this off season ? That should be interesting

The GM said his top priority was to get a no. 1 center to play with him this off-season.

 

[1000eeer]

What could we get for Drouin + KK + 1st round pick 2021?

Keller +?
Timo Meier or Hertl?
Nothing really ?

 

[MTL-rules]

What could we get for Drouin + KK + 1st round pick 2021?

Keller +?
Timo Meier or Hertl?
Nothing really ?

Is this the new Halak, Ryder and 2nd ? Are we going to have to see this proposal each day for half a year ?

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Is this the new Halak, Ryder and 2nd ? Are we going to have to see this proposal each day for half a year ?

Maybe. And just like the 1st time seems to have traumatized you, I suggested away from tje 2nd coming of that original offer or go see a shrink.
Simple really. These things shouldn't affect you like this.

 

[Hins77]

That's an easy pass for Dallas.

Drouin sucks. If we can get a 7th for him, we take that and run

Trading a player during he is in a slump is a major mistake create by a GM imo. Value is at the lowest point. You have to wait. Exemple. : andrew shaw. Everybody want to get rid of him after 17-18. He had a lot of head injury, his value was at his lowest. Finally. He had a good season in 18-19. Bargainbain did well. He trade him knowing his health issue. Thats was a good management right there

 

[Miller Time]

Trading a player during he is in a slump is a major mistake create by a GM imo. Value is at the lowest point. You have to wait. Exemple. : andrew shaw. Everybody want to get rid of him after 17-18. He had a lot of head injury, his value was at his lowest. Finally. He had a good season in 18-19. Bargainbain did well. He trade him knowing his health issue. Thats was a good management right there

we traded him for less assets than what we acquired him for... the shaw lifecycle with the habs epitomizes MB's incompetence as a GM when it comes to asset management, regularly turns a dollar into 15 cents

 

[Doc McKenna]

Trading a player during he is in a slump is a major mistake create by a GM imo. Value is at the lowest point. You have to wait. Exemple. : andrew shaw. Everybody want to get rid of him after 17-18. He had a lot of head injury, his value was at his lowest. Finally. He had a good season in 18-19. Bargainbain did well. He trade him knowing his health issue. Thats was a good management right there

Chicago got debrincat another second and cap space, we got a worse 2nd and 3rd back for the same player after he did well.

In fact the contract MB gave Shaw would have only cost us a second if he had just RFA'd him.
6 years at 3.9 WTF was he thinking with another monster contract length for a guy with injuries.

$1,339,575 or less	No compensation
$1,339,576 to $2,029,659	Third-round pick
$2,029,660 to $4,059,322	Second-round pick

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Hins77]

we traded him for less assets than what we acquired him for... the shaw lifecycle with the habs epitomizes MB's incompetence as a GM when it comes to asset management, regularly turns a dollar into 15 cents

Its like a car. You acquire a 2020 car with no accident in his history, he perfoms on his best on different kind of field (playoff/season). With only 15 000 km. Or you acquire a car 2015 with many accident history, 100 000 km. Older and doesnt run everytime. Wich one will cost you the most? At some point, other GM arent dumb and won’t give the same cash than bergevin gave to Chicago to an older Shaw with injury history. You won’t sell the same price a shea weber at 26 yo than a shea weber at 36. Bergevin been lucky to have a 2nd rn pick for Shaw

 

[Miller Time]

Its like a car. You acquire a 2020 car with no accident in his history, he perfoms on his best on different kind of field (playoff/season). With only 15 000 km. Or you acquire a car 2015 with many accident history, 100 000 km. Older and doesnt run everytime. Wich one will cost you the most? At some point, other GM arent dumb and won’t give the same cash than bergevin gave to Chicago to an older Shaw with injury history. You won’t sell the same price a shea weber at 26 yo than a shea weber at 36. Bergevin been lucky to have a 2nd rn pick for Shaw

yes, and, if you keep paying a premium for poorly built newer cars/lemons, only to sell them for less once they break down as expected, you should probably let someone else handle your finances

 

[Hins77]

Chicago got debrincat another second and cap space, we got a worse 2nd and 3rd back for the same player after he did well.

In fact the contract MB gave Shaw would have only cost us a second if he had just RFA'd him.

$1,339,575 or less	No compensation
$1,339,576 to $2,029,659	Third-round pick
$2,029,660 to $4,059,322	Second-round pick

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Hey hey hey. I never talk about debrincat here. Also. I never said that was the right move to do when he trade for him. I wanted sam girard. So Yes I never understood the move. At the moment. . What Im saying, he been lucky to fetch at leats a second rd pick for him after those season

 

[Hins77]

yes, and, if you keep paying a premium for poorly built newer cars/lemons, only to sell them for less once they break down as expected, you should probably let someone else handle your finances

Lol. I remember when he acquired Shaw. He was a hell of monster in Chiacgo. He was litteraly a playoff guy. Don’t think he had a long history of concussion at that time. He was 24. His value was high. What I dislike from the trade. Bergevin had 2 high selection. He would pick both. Girard And debrincat. So yeah. This is a bad management at that time. What im saying is, he been lucky to fetch a 2nd and a 3rd, 4 years later for him. Im not excuses his lack of management in 15/16.

 

[Doc McKenna]

Lol. I remember when he acquired Shaw. He was a hell of monster in Chiacgo. He was litteraly a playoff guy. Don’t think he had a long history of concussion at that time. He was 24. His value was high. What I dislike from the trade. Bergevin had 2 high selection. He would pick both. Girard And debrincat. So yeah. This is a bad management at that time. What im saying is, he been lucky to fetch a 2nd and a 3rd, 4 years later for him. Im not excuses his lack of management in 15/16.

I think most of us would have prefered to either keep eller for the center role, or to trade the 50ish ranked eller picks from wash to the hawks instead.

OR just RFA him for a single second rounder given Chicago was in cap hell. His cap hit from MB was just a single second rounder from what the charts say. Then we could have retained 3 seconds and still had shaw, or kept eller and shaw and still had a second rounder.

 

[le_sean]

That's an easy pass for Dallas.

Drouin sucks. If we can get a 7th for him, we take that and run

Absurd. No wonder he wants to go.

The discoure with Drouin is grotesque. Suzuki leads the team in playoff scoring “OMG #1 CENTRE.” Drouin is tied with him “what a f***ing loser, he should be traded”

Honestly he deserves better than our pathetic fanbase.

 

[habsterr]

Absurd. No wonder he wants to go.

The discoure with Drouin is grotesque. Suzuki leads the team in playoff scoring “OMG #1 CENTRE.” Drouin is tied with him “what a f***ing loser, he should be traded”

Honestly he deserves better than our pathetic fanbase.

Drouin's attitude and heart is similar to the pathetic fanbase.

 

[TheHabs BruinRipper]

Off season will be challenging, as salary cap is not moving. Will need to be creative like Toronto did 2 years ago when they were able to get rid of a few big contracts.

 

[MTL-rules]

Maybe. And just like the 1st time seems to have traumatized you, I suggested away from tje 2nd coming of that original offer or go see a shrink.
Simple really. These things shouldn't affect you like this.

I'm not traumatized... And I hope you're a doc because only them can legaly make a diagnostic.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Nope, bad read IMO of the market, someone like Drouin who is a 50pts scorer in normal conditions, willl fetch more. Don't let your hate/disapointment of his play cloud your judgement.

His value would have been a lot higher before so it sucks to try to trade him now, but I'm done with him so be it. I mean if Galchenyuk can get us a Domi, Drouin can surely get more than a 7th rd pick.

He's hit 50 points twice in his career. He's an often injured player who doesn't rewh 50 points. So, your point is flawed already.

Trading a player during he is in a slump is a major mistake create by a GM imo. Value is at the lowest point. You have to wait. Exemple. : andrew shaw. Everybody want to get rid of him after 17-18. He had a lot of head injury, his value was at his lowest. Finally. He had a good season in 18-19. Bargainbain did well. He trade him knowing his health issue. Thats was a good management right there

He's been in a slump for his entire tenure here. When is a good time ?

Absurd. No wonder he wants to go.

The discoure with Drouin is grotesque. Suzuki leads the team in playoff scoring “OMG #1 CENTRE.” Drouin is tied with him “what a f***ing loser, he should be traded”

Honestly he deserves better than our pathetic fanbase.

So, like 10 games is a measuring stick now ?

No wonder this fan base is pathetic

Is Drouin worth more than a 7th ? Yeah. However, how is he at his all time low when he's sucked here. How is he someone he isn't? How does he help a team wcore with his 10 goals in his last like 80 games ?

Yeah....

 

[Hins77]

He's hit 50 points twice in his career. He's an often injured player who doesn't rewh 50 points. So, your point is flawed already.



He's been in a slump for his entire tenure here. When is a good time ?



So, like 10 games is a measuring stick now ?

No wonder this fan base is pathetic

Is Drouin worth more than a 7th ? Yeah. However, how is he at his all time low when he's sucked here. How is he someone he isn't? How does he help a team wcore with his 10 goals in his last like 80 games ?

Yeah....

After last playoff

 

[le_sean]

So, like 10 games is a measuring stick now ?

No wonder this fan base is pathetic

Is Drouin worth more than a 7th ? Yeah. However, how is he at his all time low when he's sucked here. How is he someone he isn't? How does he help a team wcore with his 10 goals in his last like 80 games ?

Yeah....

He was fine before the Covid break. 21 points in 31 games. That’s a 55 point pace and exactly what should be expected of him. He was also working hard and playing a good North-south game. To deny that is lying. And saying he’s only worth a 7th is trolling.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

He was fine before the Covid break. 21 points in 31 games. That’s a 55 point pace and exactly what should be expected of him. He was also working hard and playing a good North-south game. To deny that is lying. And saying he’s only worth a 7th is trolling.

He got hurt and he was good in that small sample size. Came back before covid stopage and sucked. Playoffs looked a bit better than before the stopage but not as good as he was at the start of the season.

This year, the points he got at the start of the season were mostly "luck" points. Weber took that over from him in February.

Drouin has roughly 40-50 games of playing well for us? Thats not encouraging at all and not going to have people lineup and pay something or value for him, unless they're Bergevin, or Chiarelli.

Domi still had value as he was 1 season removed from 70 points and being mostly useful. Drouin has been primarily useless.

Sure, he'll get more than a 7th if dealt, but it would be almost worth having Bergevin for another season if he got something useful for him..

 

[salbutera]

Off season will be challenging, as salary cap is not moving. Will need to be creative like Toronto did 2 years ago when they were able to get rid of a few big contracts.

Why? Tatar or Drouin and Armia are gonzo which frees up $8M+ - to be replaced by ELC contracts (Caufield & Poehling).

One of Allen / Chiarot will likely be gone via expansion draft freeing up another $3M. That’s $11M minimum, potentially more if Danault is not resigned