Sterling Archer
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Proposal: Trade thread #66
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His game is passing more than scoring, which is why he needs to be at centre and with better linemates than Armia & Lehkonen and the points will come.
Good point. Without any doubt in my mind KK has been our best offensive centre lately and that despite playing a significant portion of the time with the likes of Byron and Lehkonen. And while I love Suzuki, he has not been a dominant player he was earlier in the season or in the bubble.
I think it is too early to anoint a #1 C of the future, I am just glad we have both of them. It's a far cry from the talent level of Plek, DD, Danault and whoever else played centre here in the last 10-15 years.
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This is Tyler Bozak who got in trouble in Toronto for dressing up in blackface multiple times?
Subban has gotta go because he raised too much money for a hospital, not good character...I see how important character is to Bergevin.
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3 deadline deals for the Habs:
I’d try for David Perron if you’re dealing with the Blues. Coming off a Stanley cup winning season, one year left on his deal, fits a need for some grit and scoring on the left side. He’s a PPG player this year on a not so great Blues team, and he’s a local boy coming home so there wouldn’t be a media circus when Drouin is dealt. Perron has a 3 team NTC which I doubt the Habs are on.
To Montreal: David Perron
To St Louis: Jonathan Drouin, 2021 1st round pick.
Habs get their veteran scorer with grit, while the Blues pick up a first rounder and a young left winger on a similar value contract (to replace Perron) with potential to turn things around. Both sides get some decent value.
Then go to the Devils and acquire Kulikov. UFA defenseman who has logged top pairing mins all season and by all accounts has done a fine job. Physical defenseman who can move the puck. He’s not flashy but we don’t need flashy. Just effective. Hilarious too because he’s played with Subban all year and would be playing with Weber.
I’d offer up the 2022 3rd round pick acquired in the Perron trade, and Brett Kulak.
To Montreal: Dimitry Kulikov
To New Jersey: 2022 3rd round pick (Blues), Kulak.
Final trade would be to acquire Sam Bennett from Calgary. I’ve floated the idea of a Bennett for Armia deal in the past and I think it works for both sides. Habs would add a 3rd round pick in 2021 to compensate for Armia being UFA.
To Montreal: Sam Bennett
To Calgary: Joel Armia and 2021 3rd round pick (Chicago).
Habs post trade deadline lineup:
Perron - Suzuki - Anderson
Tatar - Danault - Toffoli
Bennett - Kotkaniemi - Perry
Byron - Staal - Evans
Kulikov - Weber
Edmundson - Petry
Chiarot - Romanov
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I’d try for David Perron if you’re dealing with the Blues. Coming off a Stanley cup winning season, one year left on his deal, fits a need for some grit and scoring on the left side. He’s a PPG player this year on a not so great Blues team, and he’s a local boy coming home so there wouldn’t be a media circus when Drouin is dealt. Perron has a 3 team NTC which I doubt the Habs are on.
To Montreal: David Perron
To St Louis: Jonathan Drouin, 2021 1st round pick.
Habs get their veteran scorer with grit, while the Blues pick up a first rounder and a young left winger on a similar value contract (to replace Perron) with potential to turn things around. Both sides get some decent value.
Then go to the Devils and acquire Kulikov. UFA defenseman who has logged top pairing mins all season and by all accounts has done a fine job. Physical defenseman who can move the puck. He’s not flashy but we don’t need flashy. Just effective. Hilarious too because he’s played with Subban all year and would be playing with Weber.
I’d offer up the 2022 3rd round pick acquired in the Perron trade, and Brett Kulak.
To Montreal: Dimitry Kulikov
To New Jersey: 2022 3rd round pick (Blues), Kulak.
Final trade would be to acquire Sam Bennett from Calgary. I’ve floated the idea of a Bennett for Armia deal in the past and I think it works for both sides. Habs would add a 3rd round pick in 2021 to compensate for Armia being UFA.
To Montreal: Sam Bennett
To Calgary: Joel Armia and 2021 3rd round pick (Chicago).
Habs post trade deadline lineup:
Perron - Suzuki - Anderson
Tatar - Danault - Toffoli
Bennett - Kotkaniemi - Perry
Byron - Staal - Evans
Kulikov - Weber
Edmundson - Petry
Chiarot - Romanov
Price
Allen
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Bozak doesnt make much sense, our injuries are at wing right now not center. While he can play wing too, with his cap hit, I'd prefer to target Dunn and a natural winger from the Blues.
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I HIGHLY doubt either of those trades would happen (unless the plus was stupid from Montreal), although I'm in total agreement with the targets.
-Hall isn't really much of a goal scorer at this point in his career, but he is basically what fans hope Drouin can be at his best. He's a great play driver who brings value offensively. I'm not sure Montreal should target Hall generally, but if Drouin goes the other way, then it makes a lot more sense from a cap and roster management perspective.
-Dunn has really struggled with 2nd pair minutes/competition this season, which is a little concerning, but he's got a promising track record and he spends a lot of time playing with D like Scandella and Bortuzzo. I think he'd look a lot better next most of Montreal's D playing the right side. Most importantly, he'd be a PMD with upside that the coaching staff might let play in the top 4.
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If you'd spend your summers watching movies with Ducharme, you too would enjoy the same privileges.
No interest at all in Shyttykirk; yes, he can move the puck but he's horrid everywhere else on the ice (and a RD)...last March when the wife and I were down in Florida visiting, caught the Bolts games against the Bruins & Habs and he was by far the worst Dman on the ice...not to mention how tiny he is; our seats were right behind the Bolts penalty box and when he took a penalty (in the 3rd I believe it was), I was almost looking at him eye to eye and I was sitting literally one step up from the box floor and he's on skates to make up for the difference...unfortunately we lost 4-0; however I did get to see Sergachev dummy Weber live, so it wasn't a total loss, I guess...
What would you expect Montreal to give for this deal? Is it possible Hoffman is targeted instead of Bozak? What would either pair of Dunn Hoffman/Bozak return?
Bozak would be a waste; if a forward comes in, it needs to be someone who can put the biscuit in the basket (ala Hoffman/Schwartz)...
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There’s a 90% chance we play the Leafs first round. I just don’t think we have enough firepower.
Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Tavares
we don’t have anyone like that. Good thing there’s no 3 on 3 in playoffs. We need a shutdown defenceman and a game breaker with speed.
While I don’t think Taylor Hall is the answer but he’s the only one that is on the market with that game breaking speed. Most of our players are slow so keeping up could be an issue. Another guy I see is Jeff Carter. He’s still fast. On defence aside from Ekholm, I don’t think any capable shutdown defenceman is available.
Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Tavares
we don’t have anyone like that. Good thing there’s no 3 on 3 in playoffs. We need a shutdown defenceman and a game breaker with speed.
While I don’t think Taylor Hall is the answer but he’s the only one that is on the market with that game breaking speed. Most of our players are slow so keeping up could be an issue. Another guy I see is Jeff Carter. He’s still fast. On defence aside from Ekholm, I don’t think any capable shutdown defenceman is available.
If I were the Flames GM, i wouldn't have hired Sutter... nor would I be trading Gaudreau.
If I were the Flames GM intent on trading Gaudreau because my new long term coach and him weren't going to work together and I wanted to get assets back, I'd trade him for best return possible.
as i already identified, i don't feel there will be an offer out there much better than 1st/Fleury/Drouin for Gaudreau @ 6.75M.
will they retain salary to get a better return? maybe.
will they need to take on a similarly mediocre contract like Drouin's? likely.
will they get better net assets than a 1st & Fleury without the above? doubt it.
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Shame Berg couldn't convince his old friends in Chicago to take on our garbage like Florida did.
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IF, a big IF, we're serious about contending NOW, we would be in a much better position if we cleared our bad contracts off the cap. We could then use that cap space to sign players. We just got Toffoli this offseason for 4M. What could we get with Drouin's 5.5M? What could we get with the combined 5M Armia and Lehkonen make? What could we get with the 3.4M Byron makes? Add all those up and we have 13.9M in cap space. Replace Armia and Lehkonen with two 700k 4th liners, and we have 12.5M to spend on two players to replace Byron and Drouin.
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