Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXII

[AchtzehnBaby]

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Proposal: - Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXI

A temp until what? I don’t think the org is sure any of our RD prospects will be able to play int the top 4. We need a legit piece who can play for the next 5-7 A temp until better options are available. Doesn't need to be internal. Weegar and Dumba are both nearing the end of their contracts...

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[Sweatred]

Eric Macrmalla had a nice piece yesterday on in the box quoting a few pieces and discussing how basically no American and most Canadians ever want to play in Canada in any pro sport. He broke it down nicely accounting for the odd UFA CDN signing and RFA Brady type extensions.

Standard reasons argued about here and a few new ones .

 

[Sensmileletsgo]

Eric Macrmalla had a nice piece yesterday on in the box quoting a few pieces and discussing how basically no American and most Canadians ever want to play in Canada in any pro sport. He broke it down nicely accounting for the odd UFA CDN signing and RFA Brady type extensions.

Standard reasons argued about here and a few new ones .

It sucks man, but sadly it’s very true.

 

[2CHAINZ]

Eric Macrmalla had a nice piece yesterday on in the box quoting a few pieces and discussing how basically no American and most Canadians ever want to play in Canada in any pro sport. He broke it down nicely accounting for the odd UFA CDN signing and RFA Brady type extensions.

Standard reasons argued about here and a few new ones .

I don't really understand your post. I read the whole thing and it doesn't mention how Formenton sucks even once in it.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Eric Macrmalla had a nice piece yesterday on in the box quoting a few pieces and discussing how basically no American and most Canadians ever want to play in Canada in any pro sport. He broke it down nicely accounting for the odd UFA CDN signing and RFA Brady type extensions.

Standard reasons argued about here and a few new ones .

So no point in supporting the team financially then? No way they’ll be able to sign tkatchuk and debrincat and Sanderson and they’re building the team around those 3

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Keep

 

[Liver King]

Who would everyone’s preference be on

Chychrun Weegar and Marino? Assuming they all have varying degrees of value

I was expecting we target Petry or Myers but it’s nice we’re looking at guys higher profile with a better age range

 

[bert]

Keep

No brainer. Makes absolutely no sense. If someone doesn't understand that he either has value or doesn't because of the investigation. I am not sure how to explain it.

The Hamonic situation is nothing like this and is not comparable in any way. Sens need more Formentons not less.

 

[Liver King]

Keep

I’d be hesitant to make too many changes, our top 9 looks great right now with no other moves.

Lost Paul, and now looks like we’re losing Brown.

I don’t wanna see the coach spend a month trying to figure out his lines again

Trading away that speed and pk ability is too risky, he makes us a threat

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Keep

Stutzle norris debrincat all dude for contracts. And Sanderson and potentially another t4 d. Formenton due for a raise. Probably easier to let greig grow into his spot. Will be cheaper for longer

 

[Sweatred]

I don't really understand your post. I read the whole thing and it doesn't mention how Formenton sucks even once in it.

Not all that surprising …

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Stutzle norris debrincat all dude for contracts. And Sanderson and potentially another t4 d. Formenton due for a raise. Probably easier to let greig grow into his spot. Will be cheaper for longer

Right now I would gamble on Formenton over Greig especially in that role. Cheaper is an argument but it shouldn't be. Formenton isn't going to be overly expensive.

 

[GCK]

Giroux still 60/40 to Ottawa. I wonder if that’s why they are desperately trying to move Matt Murray as per Seravelli.

 

[Sweatred]

Stutzle norris debrincat all dude for contracts. And Sanderson and potentially another t4 d. Formenton due for a raise. Probably easier to let greig grow into his spot. Will be cheaper for longer

There isn’t room for Pinto at 3C, Formy, and Greig at 3LW.

Greig is cheaper and projects to be better two way hockey player willing to do what it takes to win games as an elite third liner.

Formy’s all breakaways,
Flybys, and goals
And I suspect he’s looking for lots of $$$.

Joseph’s last contract should be a model for Formy but I bet he snubs his nose at that.

 

[BankStreetParade]

Stutzle norris debrincat all dude for contracts. And Sanderson and potentially another t4 d. Formenton due for a raise. Probably easier to let greig grow into his spot. Will be cheaper for longer

He might be the fastest player in the league, continues to grow his offense and generates a metric ton of 1 on 1 scoring chances. The only reason you trade him is because you got a slam dunk top 4 D in exchange, with term and a nice AAV.

 

[Bevans]

Who would everyone’s preference be on

Chychrun Weegar and Marino? Assuming they all have varying degrees of value

I was expecting we target Petry or Myers but it’s nice we’re looking at guys higher profile with a better age range

Weegar
Chychrun

Marino

 

[BankStreetParade]

Giroux still 60/40 to Ottawa. I wonder if that’s why they are desperately trying to move Matt Murray as per Seravelli.

I'm guessing Murray's money is going to Norris. That leaves Formenton, Joseph, Brannstrom + another goalie to add to $58.8M of estimated salary expenditure next year. Another defenseman and Giroux on top of the RFAs takes us close to $80M in real salary. Zaitsev and MDZ recoups another $4.75M if you can dump them straight up without taking any money back (somewhat likely since Zaitsev's bonus is paid). Maybe if Brown is included in the trade for the top 4 D you can swap $4M.

We'll probably end up somewhere in the $72-$74M range in real salary depending on how effectively they can offload some of the dead weight.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Right now I would gamble on Formenton over Greig especially in that role. Cheaper is an argument but it shouldn't be. Formenton isn't going to be overly expensive.

He almost scored 20. Likely going to bridge. I think he will soon started commanding in the 4-5 range.

While we have seemingly started to spend there is still a cap. We take care of the core. Everyone else needs to be expendable. 3rd line RW is not the core. Unless greig explodes he will be expendable too when the time comes.

If formenton is what it takes to shore up a defense pairing. It’s easy for me

 

[JaredCowen4Norris]

Giroux still 60/40 to Ottawa. I wonder if that’s why they are desperately trying to move Matt Murray as per Seravelli.

Probably part of the reason for sure. I think they also want to add a really solid RD so when they have discussion with Giroux they can show him the fully built out roster. Show's we're committed to competing.

 

[Sweatred]

So no point in supporting the team financially then? No way they’ll be able to sign tkatchuk and debrincat and Sanderson and they’re building the team around those 3

You should listen to it … he or I never said “no way” to sign anyone. Just obvious trends.

I’d be shocked if we resign Brady and the Cat.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

He might be the fastest player in the league, continues to grow his offense and generates a metric ton of 1 on 1 scoring chances. The only reason you trade him is because you got a slam dunk top 4 D in exchange, with term and a nice AAV.

That’s the essentially the only scenario I am discussing here. I wouldn’t give formenton away for a second or use him to get a team to take Murray.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

He almost scored 20. Likely going to bridge. I think he will soon started commanding in the 4-5 range.

While we have seemingly started to spend there is still a cap. We take care of the core. Everyone else needs to be expendable. 3rd line RW is not the core. Unless greig explodes he will be expendable too when the time comes.

If formenton is what it takes to shore up a defense pairing. It’s easy for me

Different argument.
I would keep Formenton. We have other options including Greig and Joseph. I am not pushing Formenton if the deal can happen with one of the others.

 

[Sweatred]

That’s the essentially the only scenario I am discussing here. I wouldn’t give formenton away for a second or use him to get a team to take Murray.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting moving Formy for anything but a top dman .

Our defense is brutal, pushing Formy, Greig, or whoever to a 4th line and not addressing the defense would be foolsih. Maybe there’s a way to improve the D for less, but no team is giving away a top 4RD for Sokolov and a second and Pinto and Greig are more valauble than Formy.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

You should listen to it … he or I never said “no way” to sign anyone. Just obvious trends.

I’d be shocked if we resign Brady and the Cat.

You might want to sit down for this...

 

[Sweatred]

You might want to sit down for this...

Ehhh… when his contract expires and he is a UFA able to go ANNNYYWHERRRE.

Like the pressure Calgary is facing now with Matthew and JG… yes , I know Matthew is a year away from UFA.