Rumor: Trade rumours/Proposals 2018-2019 (Part 13)

[Micklebot]

Signed Stone, Ceci and Clb's 1st for Laine?

Honestly, what would we have to give up?

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDoo]

Once again, Bruce is way off. I wouldn't presume to speak for the whole fanbase, but I'm personally fine with a rebuild. My issue doesn't lie with the plan, or even a lack thereof. It's more in the fact that we're selling off players at their peak, retaining no established talent, and being asked to be patient. We've been patient. This is not a rebuild – it's a referendum on the faith the fanbase has in this management team to execute a rebuild. And that referendum is coming up overwhelmingly negative.

Good post.

I'll add that whenever Dorion says something that sounds like "the plan", it becomes contradicted by reality within a few months / weeks / days. Eg his claim last summer after signing Stone to the 1 year contract that they were "close" to a long term deal. Even more recently, his press conference on Friday where he identified Ceci as one of the veterans on the team who would help guide the young players during the rebuild ... followed 48 hours later by sitting Ceci out!

In reality the Senators "plan" is to just keep doing random crap based on the most immediate developments.

 

[Icelevel]

Signed Stone, Ceci and Clb's 1st for Laine?

Honestly, what would we have to give up?

That should do it. In a fair world

 

[BondraTime]

Laine is going to ask for ~11 million this year on a long term deal, that's not realistic for the Sens

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Signed Stone, Ceci and Clb's 1st for Laine?

Honestly, what would we have to give up?

Yikes! Too much for Laine. A signed Stone (to me, anyways) is equal to Laine.

 

[Icelevel]

Laine is going to ask for ~11 million this year on a long term deal, that's not realistic for the Sens

Give him the stone money. Assumed to be 10+

 

[BonkTastic]

I really don't want to hear about how much effort they put into signing Stone. I really couldn't give a ****.

After all the BS this franchise has pulled over the last calendar year, you don't get to take credit simply for trying.

One hundred gald-damned percent this.

 

[Micklebot]

Yikes! Too much for Laine. A signed Stone (to me, anyways) is equal to Laine.

It's the 6 year difference that does it.

Laine also has potential to surpass Stone as a player.

 

[Icelevel]

Yikes! Too much for Laine. A signed Stone (to me, anyways) is equal to Laine.

Can afford to overpay (not sure it’s much of an overpayment anyway) in this case.
Getting laine might actually keep Sens fans interested and...happy?ish

 

[Micklebot]

Laine is going to ask for ~11 million this year on a long term deal, that's not realistic for the Sens

We gots' to hit the floor somehow... why not on a potential franchise player?

 

[GoodGoodnotBad]

Would love Laine on the team but he's the exact type of player fans seem to hate on here...if you thought Hoffman was a floater...

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

It's the 6 year difference that does it.

Laine also has potential to surpass Stone as a player.

Goal scoring wise, sure. Overall as a complete player? I don't think so, but that's just my opinion.

In order for him to maximize his skills he would need a high IQ playmaker

 

[Very Stable Genius]

So its probably too late at this point to get Stone re-signed right?

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

But how can Laine excel here with no playmaker to get him the puck?

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Laine is going to ask for ~11 million this year on a long term deal, that's not realistic for the Sens

If we cannot sign Stone, it doesn't make sense to expect us to trade for Laine and then sign him.

Most applicable scenario would be Laine to a third team in order to put the Jets in a position asset where they are more comfortable meeting our ask on Stone.

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

So its probably too late at this point to get Stone re-signed right?

Not too late until July 1. But I think "highly unlikely" is a fair assessment.

 

[Silencio]

Stone for Laine could be Hossa for Heatley v 2.0

 

[Ouroboros]

Laine is probably in a position to ask for hefty bonuses in his contract, so we'd have the same problem with him as we did with Stone.

He'd be a prime offer sheet target if he were Sens property.

 

[inthewings]

I have a better chance of getting work done today than Ottawa has of signing Laine long-term. Which is to say Ottawa has no chance of signing Laine.

 

[Alex1234]

Laine is going to ask for ~11 million this year on a long term deal, that's not realistic for the Sens

Maybe they move Laine for picks and prospects and swing them back at us for Stone?

 

[Icelevel]

But how can Laine excel here with no playmaker to get him the puck?

Laine-Brown-Batherson

Ooooh weeeee
(I know it’s not realistic at this point but I need this right now )

Tkachuk-Norris-Abramov
Formenton-White-Duclair

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Laine is probably in a position to ask for hefty bonuses in his contract, so we'd have the same problem with him as we did with Stone.

He'd be a prime offer sheet target if he were Sens property.

A team could offer him something in the 8 million per season for 4 year range, front load it as much as possible and fill it with signing bonuses. He'd give up zero UFA years and it would get him out of the nightmare that is being an Ottawa Senators. The compensation would be a 1st/2nd/3rd.

The Jets would obviously match that, but a team with financial constraints like us might not be able/willing to.

 

[supsens]

Laine is going to ask for ~11 million this year on a long term deal, that's not realistic for the Sens

He has the same points as Tierney, not sure that’s realistic for Laine either

 

[BloodRedArmy]

We gots' to hit the floor somehow... why not on a potential franchise player?

You mean like Karlsson? Or Stone? Or Duchene?

 

[GrantLemons]

You mean like Karlsson? Or Stone? Or Duchene?

Nah, won't work. Can't be actual good players. Good players don't want to play here.

 

[Bileur]

5 hours, come on Pierre get it done.