Rumor: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXVI: G Staying Put.

[jerseyjinx94]

In some many ways, I prefer trading Nash, and swapping nash and st. louis as ur 1st line point production. Ride St. Louis out for awhile and look to bring in a 1st line winger via free agency in the next 2 years.

I don't understand this though - people are complaining about trading Callahan for St. Louis, because we'd be losing the ability to gain future assets - but you want to trade Nash, our best offensive player, in the prime years of his career, for him?

 

[haohmaru]

well then with the Rangers pick going to be late, isnt it better to trade your 1st in a weak draft if you're going to do it?

A late 1st in this year's draft is like trading an early 3rd in a decent draft. Odds are pretty slim you're getting a 200+ game NHL'er with this pick.

 

[GregSirico]

I don't understand this though - people are complaining about trading Callahan for St. Louis, because we'd be losing the ability to gain future assets - but you want to trade Nash, our best offensive player, in the prime years of his career, for him?

Makes zero sense.

 

[Ex Officer Friendly]

That shows:
EDT: Eastern Daylight Time
CDT: Central Daylight Time
MDT: Mountain Daylight Time
PDT: Pacific Daylight Time
UTC: Coordinated Universal Time
NDT: Newfoundland Daylight Time
ADT: Atlantic Daylight Time

Eastern Time Zone + Canada covers 20/30 teams.

oooooo it was eastern Time Zone and Canada not the Canada Time zone... got it

 

[Ghost of jas]

I don't understand this though - people are complaining about trading Callahan for St. Louis, because we'd be losing the ability to gain future assets - but you want to trade Nash, our best offensive player, in the prime years of his career, for him?

Agreed

Nash & MSL > MSL & Callahan

 

[messiah]

The Rangers pick next year will be late. I thought it wasn't a great draft? thats what I've heard from many..

2015 is supposed to be one of the best and deepest drafts in years….

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

2015 is supposed to be one of the best and deepest drafts in years….

Yeah, the 2015 one..

 

[haohmaru]

2015 is supposed to be one of the best and deepest drafts in years….

Yup, 2015 is where you want multiple picks. Surprised St. Louis (the team) gave that up today.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Yes, there does seem to be a bit of redundancy there. And MSL and Zucc are very similar wingers... Zucc is basically a poor man's MSL (in fact, I think was a poster earlier today who floated the idea of trading Zucc for MSL, maybe it was BRF? I see where he's coming from with this).

AV has mentioned before about how the Rangers try to model themselves after the Red Wings, but I'm seeing more of a similarity of what the Canadiens have traditionally done post-lockout - small and speedy with good, but not great, centers. In addition to skill and talent, the successful Detroit teams have had some of the best two-players in the game up and down the line-up, as well a bunch of players who can forecheck hard and wreak havoc in the crease (Holmstrom, Franzen, Bertuzzi, Cleary). The Rangers could stand to improve in those areas.

Yep, that was me - leaving aside the "I don't think this team shouldn't be making short term moves" angle, what on earth do they need with another RW? If they're dead set on acquiring MSL, it makes sense to move one of your existing top 6 RWs for him. I am NOT advocating it, but if they do decide to go all in after MSL, it would make sense.

 

[LeetchisGod]

2015 is supposed to be one of the best and deepest drafts in years….

So was 2003.

 

[haohmaru]

And, for the record:

pending unsignable (given his demands) UFA Callahan + 2014 1st < MSL through 2014-15 (and presumably further, if he and the NYR want)

Both have leadership skills, hard work, determination. St. Louis skill set is elite. Callahan's isn't. And I love the guy, but he's asking for too much.

 

[GregSirico]

Agreed

Nash & MSL > MSL & Callahan

Exactly.

 

[NernieBichols]

I don't understand this though - people are complaining about trading Callahan for St. Louis, because we'd be losing the ability to gain future assets - but you want to trade Nash, our best offensive player, in the prime years of his career, for him?

I would contemplate sending Nash to Vancouver for Kesler.

Others pieces for St. Louis

(this in response to Dagoon post that Sather is working on what would be two major deals. one to an east coast team, one to a canadian team)

I know this is unlikely, bc it could leave the team where there are missing an offensive component they need.
But I'm not confident in Nash as THE guy here. All we've seen are glimpses sprinkled in between long periods of time where he seems lost. He has possible concussion issues (could be a reoccurring issue). Could be smart to make a move before it becomes one of those situations where we either can't trade him or your trading low. Trade him high after his run before the olympics and in them.


Hahaha and before a ton of people start labeling me as this or that, or my views as this or that. Im only talking hypothetically about what Dagoon's info could be hinting at. I am not saying the rangers are looking to trade Nash. As Cmox said earlier, its an interesting post by a poster who seems to have a lot of respect here. Im just playing and having fun with it.

 

[mcsauer2738]

I would trade Nash for MSL. I've never been impressed by Nash during his time here. He's just a 30 goal scorer, nothing more nothing less.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

That shows:
EDT: Eastern Daylight Time
CDT: Central Daylight Time
MDT: Mountain Daylight Time
PDT: Pacific Daylight Time
UTC: Coordinated Universal Time
NDT: Newfoundland Daylight Time
ADT: Atlantic Daylight Time





oooooo it was eastern Time Zone and Canada not the Canada Time zone... got it

Ah yes, UTC. I believe Iran goes by the same system.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

I would trade Nash for MSL. I've never been impressed by Nash during his time here. He's just a 30 goal scorer, nothing more nothing less.

because the Rangers have gotten so many of those guys..

 

[NYR Viper]

With Girardi signed, I'm hoping Sather makes the right decision on Stralman and looks to move him.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I would trade Nash for MSL. I've never been impressed by Nash during his time here. He's just a 30 goal scorer, nothing more nothing less.

Another solution for the Callahan quandry.

 

[NYR Viper]

I would trade Nash for MSL. I've never been impressed by Nash during his time here. He's just a 30 goal scorer, nothing more nothing less.

Huh? That's not a good idea.

 

[*Bob Richards*]

I would trade Nash for MSL. I've never been impressed by Nash during his time here. He's just a 30 goal scorer, nothing more nothing less.

This would be a very bad idea.

 

[NernieBichols]

Agreed

Nash & MSL > MSL & Callahan

How about Callahan, MSL, and Kesler.

The whole idea of moving Nash is to slot the #1 center in and then replace Nash with St. Lous.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

With Girardi signed, I'm hoping Sather makes the right decision on Stralman and looks to move him.

Hath The Lord whispered in your ear to giveth thou the corner on the what is right market?

 

[jskramer83]

Could you imagine what this forum would of been like in the early 90's?

This board would of been rioting over the fact that the Rangers traded Louie DeBrusk, Bernie Nichols. and Stephen Rice for Messier.

I mean trading two 20 years olds, who were 1st and second round draft picks for a 30 year old center is just insane and mortgaging the future.

smart money says you'll forget the name of the prospect traded this year anyway.

 

[GregSirico]

I would trade Nash for MSL. I've never been impressed by Nash during his time here. He's just a 30 goal scorer, nothing more nothing less.

I honestly have no idea if you're being serious or not.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Could you imagine what this forum would of been like in the early 90's?

This board would of been rioting over the fact that the Rangers traded Louie DeBrusk, Bernie Nichols. and Stephen Rice for Messier.

I mean trading two 20 years olds, who were 1st and second round draft picks for a 30 year old center is just insane and mortgaging the future.

smart money says you'll forget the name of the prospect traded this year anyway.

Absolutely not. I would have been all-in for that move (as I was).



Now, the subsequent Zubov and Kovalev trades on the other hand...