Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread XX

[Frozenice]

Its a mix of the 3 me think

Or, maybe he just sucks less then the other options.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Its not that bad. People are really sleeping on Kulak's performance last season. If he can be 80%-90% as good with full season usage and if Mete makes even modest improvements, Montreal's left side is perfectly serviceable. Lacking star power or name recognition, but firmly in the average to perhaps a little above average category league-wide.

If, if, if....

If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.

Kulak could be fine or could be awful. Mete has yet to score a goal and is outmuscled regularly. Please name the teams that have a worse left side on defense in the NHL. I’m genuinely interested in seeing who you think is worse than Montreal.

 

[TT1]

Grow some balls and land Provorov or Werenski.

 

[Captain Mountain]

If, if, if....

If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.

Kulak could be fine or could be awful. Mete has yet to score a goal and is outmuscled regularly. Please name the teams that have a worse left side on defense in the NHL. I’m genuinely interested in seeing who you think is worse than Montreal.

Off the top of my head:

Winnipeg, Vegas (if Theodore plays on the right side, which he does occasionally), Pittsburgh, Ottawa, Rangers, New Jersey, LA and Buffalo all have worse left sides

Washington, St. Louis, San Jose, Islanders, Florida and Colorado all have comparable left sides for the most part.

Kulak was legitimately a VERY strong top-4 D-man last season. Its not unrealistic to expect a 25 year old D-man coming off a strong season to not suck the next season. Mete has flaws? Shocking. He's also a strong puck mover, good passer, has excellent gap control and is only 21. He's not finished developing.

I care a lot more about impacts and results than the reputation of players. Montreal's left side D is fine. Its not great and would ideally be improved, but its definitely not horrible.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Its a mix of the 3 me think

No, the assumption is that the coach has trust in a player because of their performance and/or ability. But if you assume that is the case, then you better not ever complain about how a coach uses a player again.

 

[1909]

Anyway, he tried with Aho. Which other GM around the NHL made a n Offer sheet to anyone this Summer ?

 

[417]

Off the top of my head:

Winnipeg, Vegas (if Theodore plays on the right side, which he does occasionally), Pittsburgh, Ottawa, Rangers, New Jersey, LA and Buffalo all have worse left sides

Washington, St. Louis, San Jose, Islanders, Florida and Colorado all have comparable left sides for the most part.

Kulak was legitimately a VERY strong top-4 D-man last season. Its not unrealistic to expect a 25 year old D-man coming off a strong season to not suck the next season. Mete has flaws? Shocking. He's also a strong puck mover, good passer, has excellent gap control and is only 21. He's not finished developing.

I care a lot more about impacts and results than the reputation of players. Montreal's left side D is fine. Its not great and would ideally be improved, but its definitely not horrible.

Agreed...

I find it odd that so many are down on Mete, is it cause he hasn't scored yet?

It can't be just that...no one should be applying that amount of "score vision" when evaluating a player.

Both Mete & Kulak, while not benefiting from inflated reputations that many players have, are both players whose arrow is pointing up.

I look forward to seeing what they do this coming year.

 

[Miller Time]

If, if, if....

If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.

Kulak could be fine or could be awful. Mete has yet to score a goal and is outmuscled regularly. Please name the teams that have a worse left side on defense in the NHL. I’m genuinely interested in seeing who you think is worse than Montreal.

A pointless excersice bc if someone thinks Mere & Kulak are better than we've seen so far & unequivocally destined to improve (whereas all other teams will have more proven players who regress & young players that won't improve), then of course they'll start listing a bunch of teams "off the top of their head"...

I mean, obviously Mete is better than Dhalin, right? Lol....

 

[Miller Time]

Agreed...

I find it odd that so many are down on Mete, is it cause he hasn't scored yet?

It can't be just that...no one should be applying that amount of "score vision" when evaluating a player.

Both Mete & Kulak, while not benefiting from inflated reputations that many players have, are both players whose arrow is pointing up.

I look forward to seeing what they do this coming year.

I haven't seen many posters "down on Mete"... What gives you that impression?

I have seen a lot of hyperbole about how good he was last year, and way optimistic projections about how good he's likely to be this coming year.... But that's typical hometeam bias, nothing to surprising.

Both Mete and Kulak exceeded expectations last year, giving good reason to hope for continued progression... From there to project Mete to be an amazing top pairing contributor, or Kulak to be more than a reliable bottom-3 dman, is a pretty excessive stretch.

 

[Rosso Scuderia]

Anyway, he tried with Aho. Which other GM around the NHL made a n Offer shett to anyone this Summer ?

His shit offer.. I mean offer sheet was a joke. He risked nothing there. Nothing ballsy about it.

 

[sampollock]

Anyway, he tried with Aho. Which other GM around the NHL made a n Offer shett to anyone this Summer ?

AND every GM and reporter, said his offer was to low, Even Bob Mac said no way will it work,
in other words, it was a waste of time, does not show nads on that offer

 

[montreal]

Could be either- we’ve already broken the offer sheet “rule” so don’t see why we wouldn’t again.

I said at the time I thought it was more MB doing a favor for Rick Dudley and that we wouldn't see the Habs do another one this year. I just don't see the Habs losing their 1st round pick when they are hosting the draft. Granted I don't know the OS rules that well since I don't pay much attention to them since I didn't think we would see one again.

If it's by trade, the question is would he give up someone like Petry, Gallagher, etc.. that it would likely take in order to get such a high end young talent.

 

[1909]

His **** offer.. I mean offer sheet was a joke. He risked nothing there. Nothing ballsy about it.

How come no one else tried to make offer sheets , then ?

 

[Rosso Scuderia]

How come no one else tried to make offer sheets , then ?

Because most of them know offer sheet is a waste of time. Because they know offer sheet rarely works. Because they know if they want to works, they have to overpaid the market value, not actual value so they have to make an offer that makes it difficult for the other team to match.

Bergevin's offer was a joke. Everybody knew it was a waste of time. Yeah, Aho's clan accepted it but it doesn't mean it was a good offer sheet to steal him from the Canes.

I like that MB attempted to steal Aho but if he wants it to wore, it should be a lot more ballsy and make an offer difficult for the Canes to match.

 

[26Mats]

What would it take to get Ehlers out of Winnipeg?

He's only 23, and his value is down because of one mediocre season where he missed 20 games. Before that he was 25-29 goal 60-64 point guy.

His trade value must not be all that high now.

 

[Fazkovsky]

What would it take to get Ehlers out of Winnipeg?

He's only 23, and his value is down because of one mediocre season where he missed 20 games. Before that he was 25-29 goal 60-64 point guy.

His trade value must not be all that high now.

J Drew

 

[Simarino]

J Drew

I would do that right f***in now!!! I would even add a pick or prospect if i had to

 

[26Mats]

J Drew

Say Winnipeg has no interested in Drouin. And we're interested in reuniting the former Halifax linemates.

What else do you think gets it done?

 

[vokiel]

What would it take to get Ehlers out of Winnipeg?

He's only 23, and his value is down because of one mediocre season where he missed 20 games. Before that he was 25-29 goal 60-64 point guy.

His trade value must not be all that high now.

Wait at the end of 2024-25 and offer him a contract if he hits UFA.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

How come no one else tried to make offer sheets , then ?

Because they didn't have the cap space and picks/prospects to make a real offer, unlike Bergevin

 

[TT1]

So if the asking price for Werenski/Provorov is a top prospect (Caufield/Suzuki/Poehling) + young NHL D (Mete) + 1st, would you do it?

Personally i prefer Werenski so i'd do Suzuki + Mete + 1st.

 

[vokiel]

So if the asking price for Werenski/Provorov is a top prospect (Caufield/Suzuki/Poehling) + young NHL D (Mete) + 1st, would you do it?

No why should we? We're not the ones with a deadline.

I wouldn't trade for Werenski/Provorov the same way you buy a Condo on the Island

 

[TT1]

No why should we? We're not the ones with a deadline.

I wouldn't trade for Werenski/Provorov the same way you buy a Condo on the Island

Because the biggest element this team lacks is a top pairing LD and they're both young w/ still a ton of upside (especially Werenski). Players like them arent available for trade every day and we have the assets to spare. It's not like were weakening our roster to acquire them.

Eventually you have to take a gamble if youre serious about competing for the cup. Price and Weber arent getting any younger.

 

[vokiel]

Because the biggest element this team lacks is a top pairing LD and they're both young w/ still a ton of upside (especially Wereski). Players like them arent available for trade every day and we have the assets to spare. It's not like were weakening our roster to acquire them.

Eventually you have to take a gamble if youre serious about competing for the cup. Price and Weber arent getting any younger.

I agree with the argument, but I'd still rather go for a better deal than an overkill one to begin. If Columbus or Philly feel they can't go forward you start lower and move higher. Caufield, Suzuki or Poehling is a very high price to pay as a starting offer.

 

[smirob]

I would much rather move Danault over Poehling/Suzuki/Caufield

Our fwd lines could be set long term if these prospects pan out, no need to move one for a dman imo.

I’d quite happily role with Domi/KK as top two and experiment with Poehling/Suzuki or get a 3C included in a Danault-Mete deal...