Pierre Dagenais
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No, you only get 925k cap relief for sending both down to the minors. Alzner cap hit in the minors = 4.625 - 0.925 = 3.7
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No, you only get 925k cap relief for sending both down to the minors. Alzner cap hit in the minors = 4.625 - 0.925 = 3.7
Milhouse40
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It's the other way around….only 925K is taken off their cap space and the rest count on the Cap.
Alzner in the minor still cost 3.5M on the cap.
montreal
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How much you can bury in the AHL goes up each year. Next season anyone making 1.075M can go to the AHL and not count against the cap, anything above that counts.
So,
Alzner - 3.55 counts against the cap
Weise - 1.275 counts against the cap
Peca - 225K counts against the cap
I wouldn't do it, drop the 50th OA and then I think it's more fair since Shaw is coming off a career year and is in his prime. Puljujarvi is a big gamble, his numbers are brutal, so it would come down to how badly Timmins and his staff wanted him, if they thought it was worth the risk or not. I haven't seen much of him at all to really say how fair it is but you have someone that has all but requested a trade, a new GM who's likely not going to care about former picks and want to focus on his own, to me there just isn't much leverage for the oilers so I wouldn't pay a lot for such a big risk.
If we sucked and didn't have a strong farm system then I would say we need to do deals like this but now while it could pay off huge, we don't need to take such a gamble as you don't want another Yakupov and I don't trust the oilers scouts at all but he did kill it at the WJC"s at 17.
he would have to demand a trade to us imo, cause if not it would cost an arm and a leg I would think even with his down year. Granted I don't follow the jets but you are talking about a guy that has scored a ton of goals at 18/19 and 20.
So,
Alzner - 3.55 counts against the cap
Weise - 1.275 counts against the cap
Peca - 225K counts against the cap
I wouldn't do it, drop the 50th OA and then I think it's more fair since Shaw is coming off a career year and is in his prime. Puljujarvi is a big gamble, his numbers are brutal, so it would come down to how badly Timmins and his staff wanted him, if they thought it was worth the risk or not. I haven't seen much of him at all to really say how fair it is but you have someone that has all but requested a trade, a new GM who's likely not going to care about former picks and want to focus on his own, to me there just isn't much leverage for the oilers so I wouldn't pay a lot for such a big risk.
If we sucked and didn't have a strong farm system then I would say we need to do deals like this but now while it could pay off huge, we don't need to take such a gamble as you don't want another Yakupov and I don't trust the oilers scouts at all but he did kill it at the WJC"s at 17.
he would have to demand a trade to us imo, cause if not it would cost an arm and a leg I would think even with his down year. Granted I don't follow the jets but you are talking about a guy that has scored a ton of goals at 18/19 and 20.
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The Great Weal
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I can't help but think about what could have happened if we picked up ROR AND Stone. Poehling+2nd+Shaw+Byron for ROR. Suzuki+2nd+2nd for Stone.
Domi-ROR-Stone
Tatar-Kotkaniemi-Gallagher
Drouin-Danault-Armia
Thompson-Weal-Lehkonen
That is one sexy forward core, and the most important pieces we gave up were Suzuki, Poehling, 3 2nds.
Oh well.
Domi-ROR-Stone
Tatar-Kotkaniemi-Gallagher
Drouin-Danault-Armia
Thompson-Weal-Lehkonen
That is one sexy forward core, and the most important pieces we gave up were Suzuki, Poehling, 3 2nds.
Oh well.
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Puljujarvi has the hockey IQ of a kumquat. Trading the 15th overall for him would be insane.
Scintillating10
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May do it. If we are spending big in free agency. The 8th is appealing if somebody slides. If not, can bring a lot in trade. Pulj is a shot in the dark.
9th Overall and Perry for 15th Overall, 46th Overall, and Alzner.
From our perspective, we take on significant cap, but get out of our Alzner commitment a year earlier which coincides well with when we will need to resign RFA's JK, RP, and UFA's Gallagher, Petry, Tatar, and Danault. Hard to say if last season's Perry is what he is, but if he can rebound to be a 15-20 goal guy, and 50 points than a 3rd line of say Byron - KK - Perry could be pretty decent.
Ducks take on an extra year, but reduce their cap significantly over the next two while saving about 5 million real dollars.
From our perspective, we take on significant cap, but get out of our Alzner commitment a year earlier which coincides well with when we will need to resign RFA's JK, RP, and UFA's Gallagher, Petry, Tatar, and Danault. Hard to say if last season's Perry is what he is, but if he can rebound to be a 15-20 goal guy, and 50 points than a 3rd line of say Byron - KK - Perry could be pretty decent.
Ducks take on an extra year, but reduce their cap significantly over the next two while saving about 5 million real dollars.
If that is an option, you go all in for it, been ages we have not had such a natural scorer.
Tampa with all their upcoming RFA's they will be for sure trading either Miller or Gourde both players NTC kicks in on July 1st,every other player they might want to move has a full NTC or NMC except Callahan who has a modified no one is taking him.....Tampa needs D.....Juulsen for either Gourde or Miller.
Habs Halifax
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Correct but it grows... It's close to $1M or slightly over due to inflation. I believe it was $1.07M last year (+/-) and will rise again slightly for next season
Habs Halifax
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Why would we trade any part of our youth for more top 9 forwards when we are already cluttered in that area with more youth coming? Also, Who's playing 3rd pairing on RD next year if we trade Juulsen?
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No, you can bury 1.075 mil next season in the minors. The formula is the amount of a minimum contract + 375k.
NHL CBA FAQ - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
Habs Halifax
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Wasn't Alzner's cap hit $3.55M last year when he was in the AHL? I think that number grows year to year and it's now slightly over $1M
Habs Halifax
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Thanks for sharing this. I knew the number grew but was not aware of the min+375K formula. Thought it was a % of the cap
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Is there a limit to the number of players that can be buried? For some reason I recall that only 2 one-way contracts could be discounted off the cap if sent to the minors. So we could send down all three, but only get a discount of up to $1,075,000 (x2). Perhaps that has changed or I am mis-remembering.
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