Columbus wouldn't. At this point Ellis is a D prospect. The difference between DD and Gaborik isn't swapping a 1st for a 2nd.
Yeah you're right, that's way too low. I guess I would have to swap DD for someone like Collberg.
Columbus wouldn't. At this point Ellis is a D prospect. The difference between DD and Gaborik isn't swapping a 1st for a 2nd.
It's not even worth it to trade them 1 for 1.
what are you saying ?
You'd take patches over Kane ?
Please remember that DD has negative value when you toss him into a trade package. That means you need to subtract a piece from the incoming package or add an equivalent negative to the other side.
it's not like Kane is more productive you know...
Found this on the trade talk board board:
Aaron Portzline @Aportzline 1h
Barring a dramatic change, I see no chance #CBJ even attempt to re-sign Marian Gaborik, will look to move him at trade deadline or sooner.
You think Bergy and the Habs would be interested? What would Gaborik's price tag be to get him?
I'm thinking:
Marian Gaborik
Daniel Briere
Sebastian Collberg
1st (2014)
2nd (2014)
It's not even worth it to trade them 1 for 1.
DD, Ellis, Briere, Collberg have little to no value. Good luck moving them for anything of substance.
Reality for Kulikov:
Beaulieu (1st round pick with high ceiling, like Kulikov) and 2nd round pick.
Reality for Matthias:
LeBlanc and a pick
Reality for Desharnais:
Versteeg or Kopecky (we'd add a decently high pick)
what are you saying ?
You'd take patches over Kane ?
I'd take that trade and run.
thoughts on pacioretty for bogo? 1 for 1
thoughts on pacioretty for bogo? 1 for 1
Closes up one hole and opens up another.
We clearly should go after Kane.
I have
to Jets
Max Pacioretty
2nd round
to MTL
Evander Kane
Id do Ellis, DD, 1st for Gaborik and a 2nd.
Reality for Kulikov:
Beaulieu (1st round pick with high ceiling, like Kulikov) and 2nd round pick.
Reality for Matthias:
LeBlanc and a pick
Reality for Desharnais:
Versteeg or Kopecky (we'd add a decently high pick)
Pretty much this. And I would rather target Kane than Bogo.
i wouldnt, kane has more value than patches but skillwise theyre pretty even(kane has an edge tho). kane can fight which makes him more valuable but patches grew up in our organization so hes close with all the players. i wouldnt do that trade because the chemistry/bond he has with the team is worth more than overpaying for a player like kane
to WPG fans... to GMs ? considering Patches makes less money and produces as much, highly doubt he has less value than Kane...
kane started producing at a younger age and is a better goal scorer
Kane isn't worth Pacioretty let alone adding a pick.
Pacioretty has been the more productive NHLer and doesn't have Kane's red flags.
Gaborik will be a UFA at year end, plus I'm not interested at the 6.5-7 mil he'll cost. Too inconsistant and injury prone.
Versteeg is a similar player making 900k more per year. I'd have to be getting a 2nd or very good prospect back). He's had 11 points in 28 games the last 2 years.
Kopecky is crap this year, might be worth a look, had a nice year last year 15-12-27 in 47 games.
The age things means nothing, Datsyuk is a late blommer does that mean we can trade Gallagher or Eller for him?
Goal scoring the last 2 years(this year Pax is still getting back from an injury and missed time)
11-12 and 12-13
Goals:
Kane 47 goals Pax 48
Points:
Pax 104 Kane 90
Pacioretty has one more year or two on his contract at 750k less
The big difference is no red flags...Kane is a bit of a loose cannon, the whole reason Winnipeg is willing to trade him. I doubt Pacioretty is available barring a crazy offer.
Beaulieu + Desharnais + Leblanc + 2nd
for
Kulikov + Kopecky + Shore
Reasoning:
two bad contracts get a change of scenery (Desharnais/Kopecky), two struggling players get a fresh start (Leblanc/Kulikov) and two prospects get a chance to crack an NHL lineup (Beaulieu/Shore).
the 2nd round pick is to balance out the value.
so what, at the end of the day they produce about the same amount of points...kane started producing at a younger age and is a better goal scorer
Pretty much this. And I would rather target Kane than Bogo.