HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #85 - Offseason Editon

[Richiebottles]

It was the owner who brought in Sutter & re-signed him to an extension. Sutter could very well become coach & GM

I don't think in 2023 we will see a GM+Coach combo. There are even more people in those jobs in some orgs (Prez Hockey Ops + GM + Coach). No way one person can do both jobs.

 

[Kaladin]

Calgary GM Brad Treliving just got fired/quit. Wonder what they are planning now

There goes that Boston pizza sponsorship…

 

[Runner77]

There goes that Boston pizza sponsorship…

Dang it, that was Kent Hughes’ best trading partner!

 

[Scintillating10]

Killorn be good UFA signing. The experience of cup wins combined with our youth 25 goals good also

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

If Toronto doesn't want to buy out Murray, I think we serious considering eating his contract for them. Something along the lines of Murray + 1st (Boston) for 2nd (Colorado).

It's not a great contract at 4.6M but for one season where we're not really expected to do anything, we get another first.

 

[MadMslm]

If Toronto doesn't want to buy out Murray, I think we serious considering eating his contract for them. Something along the lines of Murray + 1st (Boston) for 2nd (Colorado).

It's not a great contract at 4.6M but for one season where we're not really expected to do anything, we get another first.

Suggested the same earlier in the thread, though I won’t be surprised if some others teams are interested in “helping” the Leafs with that contract. Chicago looks like a prime target for this type of move.

Pick would be between 29th to 32nd depending on the Bruins performance. Which is always interesting as they could get an interesting talent. Hopefully Hughes is on the case.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

If Toronto doesn't want to buy out Murray, I think we serious considering eating his contract for them. Something along the lines of Murray + 1st (Boston) for 2nd (Colorado).

It's not a great contract at 4.6M but for one season where we're not really expected to do anything, we get another first.

Can't do that with that awful Allen extension, unless we don't want backup momtombeau coming back

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Killorn be good UFA signing. The experience of cup wins combined with our youth 25 goals good also

What youth we have like 2 forwards at this moment... Suzuki and Caufield are already mature enough to do that.

Slaf and RHP?

 

[ReHabs]

Killorn be good UFA signing. The experience of cup wins combined with our youth 25 goals good also

He is a big body with tons of experience and is 34. On the other hand he just had his biggest season of his career and would be entitled to want to cash in. We can front load the contract and take advantage of the fact he isn’t 35+ at the time of signing but I feel like (1) he wouldn’t be worth what he will command on the market and (2) he is probably not too interested in his outlook in Montreal.

A four year deal with a 5m+ cap hit is what he’s looking at, I figure.

 

[Natey]

If Toronto doesn't want to buy out Murray, I think we serious considering eating his contract for them. Something along the lines of Murray + 1st (Boston) for 2nd (Colorado).

It's not a great contract at 4.6M but for one season where we're not really expected to do anything, we get another first.

A season we're not expected to do anything...

We lost like what, 500 man games this year and still couldn't finish bottom-5. Fighting for a playoff spot isn't out of the question next year.

 

[waitin425]

If Toronto doesn't want to buy out Murray, I think we serious considering eating his contract for them. Something along the lines of Murray + 1st (Boston) for 2nd (Colorado).

It's not a great contract at 4.6M but for one season where we're not really expected to do anything, we get another first.

I'd be shocked if the Leafs are willing to trade any picks anymore, but who the hell knows. They don't have a lot of draft stock over the next three years. If they were willing to do it, I might ask for their own 2024 pick attached with conditions (because they would want varying levels of protection). Something like....if the pick is top 10 they receive our 2024 2nd pick from Colorado. If it is 11-20 they get our 3rd round pick. If it is 21-25 they get our 4th round pick and if it is 26-32 they can have our 5th rounder.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Killorn be good UFA signing. The experience of cup wins combined with our youth 25 goals good also

But not the cap for a mid 30's player on a rebuilding team. Pass.

 

[26Mats]

If Toronto doesn't want to buy out Murray, I think we serious considering eating his contract for them. Something along the lines of Murray + 1st (Boston) for 2nd (Colorado).

It's not a great contract at 4.6M but for one season where we're not really expected to do anything, we get another first.

The Leafs gave the Canes a 1st to take on Marleau's last year. So it's been done before. Then they did the pick swap you suggested to move Mzarek.

Whether they'll do something like that this summer depends on how much cap space they need to sign the players they want to sign.

Looking at cap friendly they have a lot of ufa forwards and Samsonov needs a new deal. They'll probably need to use a pick to move Murray.

 

[Scintillating10]

But not the cap for a mid 30's player on a rebuilding team. Pass.

You got to have mix. Young usually develop best from quality vets with multiple rings. We have tons caproom.

 

[Sterling Archer]

You got to have mix. Young usually develop best from quality vets with multiple rings. We have tons caproom.

We don't have as much as you think and even if we did, there are far better ways to spend it than on a 34 year old player. Hughes said as much so don't get your hopes up.

 

[LaP]

Killorn be good UFA signing. The experience of cup wins combined with our youth 25 goals good also

Killhorn will be 34 next season it would be a terrible signing.

 

[Mrb1p]

I just realized Dvoraks M-NTC kicks in this year... Good lord freaking Bergevin man.

And screw Hughes also for not trading him this year. There was no point in holding him, now were f***ing hostages of a bad player on a bad contract. He has a 8 teams no trade list. You have to be pretty sure that Winnipeg is one of those, so the Dubois trade is out the window.

 

[waitin425]

I just realized Dvoraks M-NTC kicks in this year... Good lord freaking Bergevin man.

And screw Hughes also for not trading him this year. There was no point in holding him, now were f***ing hostages of a bad player on a bad contract. He has a 8 teams no trade list. You have to be pretty sure that Winnipeg is one of those, so the Dubois trade is out the window.

Dvorak can be traded somewhere else. Florida's 1st + B prospect + later pick should get it done too.

 

[LaP]

The best course of action would be Brad Treliving hired by Pens and then us trading Dvorak to Pens for their 2024 first round pick top 3 protected.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

I just realized Dvoraks M-NTC kicks in this year... Good lord freaking Bergevin man.

And screw Hughes also for not trading him this year. There was no point in holding him, now were f***ing hostages of a bad player on a bad contract. He has a 8 teams no trade list. You have to be pretty sure that Winnipeg is one of those, so the Dubois trade is out the window.

I believe he can still be traded before the start of next season, it says it kicks in for the next 2 and final seasons of his deal. I'm sure Kent already has a list of teams he would be willing to move too

 

[danyhabsfan]

Pass on Killorn

 

[AHShadow]

I just realized Dvoraks M-NTC kicks in this year... Good lord freaking Bergevin man.

And screw Hughes also for not trading him this year. There was no point in holding him, now were f***ing hostages of a bad player on a bad contract. He has a 8 teams no trade list. You have to be pretty sure that Winnipeg is one of those, so the Dubois trade is out the window.

Not sure if all contracts are the same, but I think if players are traded before July 1st (when the NTC kicks in) then we should be fine. Cause that's what MB did with Subban.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I just realized Dvoraks M-NTC kicks in this year... Good lord freaking Bergevin man.

And screw Hughes also for not trading him this year. There was no point in holding him, now were f***ing hostages of a bad player on a bad contract. He has a 8 teams no trade list. You have to be pretty sure that Winnipeg is one of those, so the Dubois trade is out the window.

8 teams. So if Hughes thinks that there are a few of the other 23 teams that would have interest in Dvorak there is no rush to move him.

 

[rahad]

The Leafs gave the Canes a 1st to take on Marleau's last year. So it's been done before. Then they did the pick swap you suggested to move Mzarek.

Whether they'll do something like that this summer depends on how much cap space they need to sign the players they want to sign.

Looking at cap friendly they have a lot of ufa forwards and Samsonov needs a new deal. They'll probably need to use a pick to move Murray.

Caroline has to be one of the luckiest team in the league or they have the best GM. Got a first for Marleau. That first turn up being Jarvis.

Got Max P for free. Got Brent Burns a 60pts D for almsot nothing. Stole KK for a late first round....

 

[LaP]

Caroline has to be one of the luckiest team in the league or they have the best GM. Got a first for Marleau. That first turn up being Jarvis.

Got Max P for free. Got Brent Burns a 60pts D for almsot nothing. Stole KK for a late first round....

They have a very good management.