Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread 46
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Sterling Archer
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So you wouldn’t want to improve the team before the expansion draft? Hope you won’t shit on Bergevin if he doesn’t add because he’s afraid to lose a player in the expansion draft.
Injury prone? look at what happened
He is Armia tough which is not about hits but more about not getting move asisde
DiglettDangles
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Your reaction bamboozled me, to be frank. I would argue drafting 3 players in the 2nd round will improve the team for when it matters. On the contrary, trading those picks for a player we could then lose a year later for nothing is poor asset management. For the record, I would take a flyer on Puljujarvi post-expansion draft.
Unlike what you infer I have zero expectations for the team next year except developing our young players adequately. Hoping Puljujarvi is the difference between making the playoffs or not is very optimistic. I don't know how you would logically conclude that I would trashtalk Bergevin if he did exactly what I wish he does...
I’m all for trading a second round pick for puljijarvi. Possibly even 2 of them. If we picked a player with those picks who at 21 years old put up those numbers in the Finish league we’d be drooling
Sterling Archer
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Well we can not sign over draft player we pick, not will they all become NHL players. Given that we have one of the deepest and talented prospect pools in the NHL and have another 14 picks in this draft, it would behove us to parlay some of these picks into actual NHL bodies. This year in particular.
So if that means it’s possible we lose a player, than so be it. I’d rather see an improved and deeper roster than continue to languish in the standings and continue to waste the best years of the two star players we do have.
I did not say Poolparty was THE answer. I said he’d be a great addition especially if he continues to progress. If he does and outplay other players, than perhaps we do t protect them instead. If he’s not one of the 7 forwards protected, then might I suggest he’s not worth protecting and likely won’t be picked up. Much like when Hudon was exposed and a good portion of people here were upset for not protecting him. Didn’t turn out so bad then.
So to reiterate, I’d rather we improve than stagnate, which is probably at the core of why you were bamboozled by my post on the first place.
I wonder if the Habs may try to trade some of their 2020 picks for 2021 picks. If they did play on trying to leverage picks for players it's more likely that they'd be able to do that at the 2021 draft, when a team wouldn't be giving up a player that might be going on a playoff run.
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No he isn't, but I wouldn't be opposed to make a trade involving a player. I also think it would be wise to hold off negotiations for Tatar, Gally, Danault, Armia and Petry. Firstly, if the Habs are a bottom 10 team once again next year, I wouldn't be opposed to trading away most of them. Secondly, if we still want to keep them, resigning them after the draft means we get to keep all of them.
JeffreyLFC
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Borgstrom Puljujarvi Kaprizov : get those 3 youngster add them to our core.
- Where do you put them
- why
- for what (picks player,ect)
Can be one of them 2 or all of them. Give me yours thoughts!
- Where do you put them
- why
- for what (picks player,ect)
Can be one of them 2 or all of them. Give me yours thoughts!
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Wild aren't trading Kaprizov! Never ever happening! Don't even know why Montreal fans like you think wild would do so, beside dreaming .
Like it's beyond laughable. Kaprizov is already committed to Minnesota & can't play for anyone else. You want to give up 3 or 4 1st? Yeah you are dreaming
JeffreyLFC
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Let's go All in SUOMI!
Draft Lindell.
2nd for Borgstrom,
2nd for Puljujarvi,
2nd for Vesalainen,
2nd for Ristolainen,
2nd for Valimaki,
2nd for Vaakanainen
2nd for Heponiemi
2nd for Kupari
2nd for Juolevi
2nd for Jokiharju
2nd for Tolvanen
2nd for Saros
2nd for Niku
2nd for Honka
2nd for Kapanen
New lines:
Tolvanen - Kotkaniemi - Kapanen
Vesalainen - Borgstrom - Puljujarvi
Heponiemi - Kupari - Ylonen
Lehkonen - Lindell -Armia
Valimaki - Ristolainen
Vaakanainen - Jokiharju
Juolevi - Honka
Saros
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You forgot the most important. Start with a Finnish coach and GM. Jukka Jalonen and Jarmo Kekäläinen. Edit: inclined to make an exception for a few Russians, maybe an assistant coach and a few players, beginning with Romanov. Not sure if the two parts of the team can coexist, given their history; hopefully that's water under the bridge.Let's go All in SUOMI!
Draft Lindell.
2nd for Borgstrom,
2nd for Puljujarvi,
2nd for Vesalainen,
2nd for Ristolainen,
2nd for Valimaki,
2nd for Vaakanainen
2nd for Heponiemi
2nd for Kupari
2nd for Juolevi
2nd for Jokiharju
2nd for Tolvanen
2nd for Saros
2nd for Niku
2nd for Honka
2nd for Kapanen
New lines:
Tolvanen - Kotkaniemi - Kapanen
Vesalainen - Borgstrom - Puljujarvi
Heponiemi - Kupari - Ylonen
Lehkonen - Lindell -Armia
Valimaki - Ristolainen
Vaakanainen - Jokiharju
Juolevi - Honka
Saros
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That's the spirit dear comrade! Lets have some fun.Let's go All in SUOMI!
Draft Lindell.
2nd for Borgstrom,
2nd for Puljujarvi,
2nd for Vesalainen,
2nd for Ristolainen,
2nd for Valimaki,
2nd for Vaakanainen
2nd for Heponiemi
2nd for Kupari
2nd for Juolevi
2nd for Jokiharju
2nd for Tolvanen
2nd for Saros
2nd for Niku
2nd for Honka
2nd for Kapanen
New lines:
Tolvanen - Kotkaniemi - Kapanen
Vesalainen - Borgstrom - Puljujarvi
Heponiemi - Kupari - Ylonen
Lehkonen - Lindell -Armia
Valimaki - Ristolainen
Vaakanainen - Jokiharju
Juolevi - Honka
Saros
Ok, so you value him (part 3) : unreachable ... what about part one and two?
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could be an amazing thing for the all-stars game one country against the rest of the NHL !!
Year one Canada year 2 Russia year 3 Finlad ... and sooo on!
sampollock
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Accordng to Kevin Kurz of The Athletic, that has changed.
Kurz feels that Vlasic is now ready to waive his no movement clause to accept a trade to Montreal.
Kurz feels that Vlasic is now ready to waive his no movement clause to accept a trade to Montreal.
Heres a thought that i had last night:
Teams like NJ, FL, Car will have problems dealing with the current covid situation.
money problems
So they could unload heavy contracts for dirt cheap, is what i think. So a big trade that came to my mind is this one:
to NJ: Karl Alzner @ 4.6 m x 2 years, 2020 3rd round pick
to mtl: PK Suban @ 9 m x 2 years
Nj could buy back Alzner’s contract and save approximately 5.5 m per year versus Subban’s contract.
Mtl gets fan boy back! Gets Alzner’s contract off their hands for the same amount off years left. Adds without giving jack sh..
Some could argue why would Nj do that? Answer is simple: money
Who else in the league can take Subban’s contract and ego? Montreal
Chariot- weber
Romanov- petry
Kulak- Subban
or however you can think of it...
voila!
Teams like NJ, FL, Car will have problems dealing with the current covid situation.
money problems
So they could unload heavy contracts for dirt cheap, is what i think. So a big trade that came to my mind is this one:
to NJ: Karl Alzner @ 4.6 m x 2 years, 2020 3rd round pick
to mtl: PK Suban @ 9 m x 2 years
Nj could buy back Alzner’s contract and save approximately 5.5 m per year versus Subban’s contract.
Mtl gets fan boy back! Gets Alzner’s contract off their hands for the same amount off years left. Adds without giving jack sh..
Some could argue why would Nj do that? Answer is simple: money
Who else in the league can take Subban’s contract and ego? Montreal
Chariot- weber
Romanov- petry
Kulak- Subban
or however you can think of it...
voila!
Deebs
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6 years left at 7M per season for a 33 year old Vlasic. Probably wouldn’t want to take him on. SJ would have to retain and take Alzner back.
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