Proposal: Trade proposal part IV

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You wont get that without paying out the nose, its just not something that is smart.

Bean is not good, Mete is better, stop with him.

imo Bean > mete
but that's my opinion, I'm high on him and I think he doesnt deserve the bad press from the u20


we do have wiggle room at C now, Kotka/Domi/suzuki are my future, not Poehling.
I would deal Poehling + assets for a top 20-26 LHD. we can win in 2-3 years and follow our current prospects learning curve
 

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Josh Mahura out of Anahiem, he would be cheaper to get than Bean and could very well have a higher upside. The Ducks want to add young offence, we just so happen to have Hudon rotting in the press box. Something around this has to make sense with us adding a pick or something.
 

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imo Bean > mete
but that's my opinion, I'm high on him and I think he doesnt deserve the bad press from the u20


we do have wiggle room at C now, Kotka/Domi/suzuki are my future, not Poehling.
I would deal Poehling + assets for a top 20-26 LHD. we can win in 2-3 years and follow our current prospects learning curve
Kotkaniemi won't turn 19 until july of next year, the team will be looking to compete from next year to the next ten, rushing things isn't going to help.
 

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Josh Mahura out of Anahiem, he would be cheaper to get than Bean and could very well have a higher upside. The Ducks want to add young offence, we just so happen to have Hudon rotting in the press box. Something around this has to make sense with us adding a pick or something.
He wouldn't be cheaper, and I like Mahura way more than Bean, I'd be down with acquiring him, but I don't know what Anaheim would want.

Hudon certainly doesn't do it.
 
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He wouldn't be cheaper, and I like Mahura way more than Bean, I'd be down with acquiring him, but I don't know what Anaheim would want.

Hudon certainly doesn't do it.
100% agree with it would take more than Hudon. Probably a pick to go with him, one we could recover when Benn gets dealt for a 2/3 rounder. Mahura could probably play right now with Weber carrying him for the next year or so.
 

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Kotkaniemi won't turn 19 until july of next year, the team will be looking to compete from next year to the next ten, rushing things isn't going to help.

big big difference in a 18 years old center and 18 years old D. On average, D prospect will mature a lot later in life, like the goaltenders.
You can have a elite center at 18 ( kotka) but having a elite D at 18 ? it's almost impossible outside of the top 5 pick
 

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Josh Mahura out of Anahiem, he would be cheaper to get than Bean and could very well have a higher upside. The Ducks want to add young offence, we just so happen to have Hudon rotting in the press box. Something around this has to make sense with us adding a pick or something.

I tried to get him on the Ducks board. They are high AF on him.
Ducks will have to deal a LHD in the net 2 years, they are stacked with formidable D prospects

Larsson/Lindholm/Fowler/Mahura ( I'm high on all of those, they are all freaking amazing)

insane lineup, really insane. and they had Theodore....
 

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I wouldn't say it's too bad considering other contracts that are around and people on here saying they would take on the lucic contract.



As mentioned above, if the price was right. As in low. I'm not saying to give up a bunch of assets to make a run at the cup, I'm saying if we can get a stop gap at LD like Keith to allow the prospects to grow, that it would be very helpful.
If Chicago wants only a 7th round draft pick, then take him...IF he actually wants to waive his clause(which he probably does NOT). If not, then PASS....HARD PASS ! !
 

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Tarasenko’s game is falling like a rock. After 3 consecutive 70-75 pt seasons, he’s accumulated a measly 86 pts over his past 109 games.

I’d make a push, but wouldn’t break the bank for him at this point.
Agreed. If one can FLEECE, then do it. Otherwise, NO!
 
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I tried to get him on the Ducks board. They are high AF on him.
Ducks will have to deal a LHD in the net 2 years, they are stacked with formidable D prospects

Larsson/Lindholm/Fowler/Mahura ( I'm high on all of those, they are all freaking amazing)

insane lineup, really insane. and they had Theodore....

You can add Montour to that group +Vatanen who like Theodore they use to have.
 

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I want Tarasenko or Bjorkstrand or Kovalchuk as possible candidates for Domi and Drouin

For d, Bean or Muzzin would be good
 

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What are your reasons? Do you think he is done? Can you explain?

My concern is price to acquire? If it's Mete and a grade B piece or a 3rd. I'm totally ok with it... even if he walks at the age of 31 cause he ask for too much. I'm not high on Mete as some other are. In two years time, Mete can be the exact same guy we know today. Fast skater, good vision, poor shot, and gets pushed around in his own end.

Muzzin from age 29-31 at $4M cap hit is very good value IMO. Very similar to Petry on the left side.
100% agree. Only get Muzzin, if it does not cost a lot.
 

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Which of the two, Panarin, or Tarasenko, is the BETTER player, who will last longest in the NHL? Remember, Russians have this KHL league that they are slowly starting to like better, and can bolt, at any time. See Kovalchuk for proof.

Flip a coin. I personally have a preference for Panarin but either is exactly what we could use. Panarin did come from KHL so he might be more of a flight risk though one can argue because he knows the KHL, he’d likely not want to go back!
 

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Which of the two, Panarin, or Tarasenko, is the BETTER player, who will last longest in the NHL? Remember, Russians have this KHL league that they are slowly starting to like better, and can bolt, at any time. See Kovalchuk for proof.

Panarin has better hands and patience can go east west eat up time in the offensive zone. Tarasenko is north south and puts the luck in the net .But his numbers are steadily declining while panarin are climbing. I'd go panarin for the extra 2 million it would cost at UFA time because we don't have to give up assets
 

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We could trade Scherbak, DLR and Alzner to them.... Oups....:sarcasm:
Every team are place in those situation and you can't sell all your assets. With the cap, many players fall in the cracks. Once you make a decision on a player, hard to turn back and sucks wen you can't work out a deal.
 

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imo Bean > mete
but that's my opinion, I'm high on him and I think he doesnt deserve the bad press from the u20


we do have wiggle room at C now, Kotka/Domi/suzuki are my future, not Poehling.
I would deal Poehling + assets for a top 20-26 LHD. we can win in 2-3 years and follow our current prospects learning curve

I disagree. Poehling should be part of the lineup of the future as another skilled, shutdown, two-way C with size and determination will help when it comes to the gruelling March for 16 Ws in the post season. Besides, we wouldn't be losing the offensive skill set of Suzuki who would be much freer to use it at RW without the concerns of a Cs defensive assignments mucking up the whole thing. :)

Just continue to have Brook play at LD as he has been doing alongside Woo with success, either to provide more offense or in defensive missions with a lead to end games.

Within two years, the D could be:

Brook - Weber
Kulak - Petry
Mete - Juulsen

with Harris or Romanov perhaps surprising us at LD to add more competition at that position and replace Brook once he replaces Petry after the end of his current contract.
 
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