Yeah, it seems thatnCullen would be the perfect counterpart to Stewart on the fourth line.
Speculation: Trade Ideas and Free Agency XXII
- Thread starter Minnesota
- Start date
- Status
Yeah, it seems thatnCullen would be the perfect counterpart to Stewart on the fourth line.
That might help make some sense out of it, but I don't think they could do a Dumba for a big contract trade now anyway?
Sportsfan1
Registered User
Cullen played out of position here when he was in a top 2 roll. Now, if we could get him as a 4th line center that would be absolutely perfect and I hope Fletcher is able to get that done.
TwiztedHeat
Registered User
- Feb 6, 2010
- 4,786
- 324
A guy I think would be a stellar 4th liner that's on the market still is Dom Moore. He's a little older too but solid character guy who's good on the PK and great in the faceoff dot.
Go figure, Fletcher confirmed my guess, Dumba and Kuemper's contracts need to be finalized before bringing in anyone else.
Minnewildsota
He who laughs last thinks slowest
- Jun 7, 2010
- 8,716
- 3,008
Oh you didn't know? I thought you knew everything... it was when Fletcher was on KFAN.
I heard Fletcher on KFAN this morning. In fact I heard him distinctly say that he knows the parameters of the Dumba and Kuemper deals well enough that he didn't think either one would hold him back from making moves.
http://kfan.iheart.com/media/play/27125741/
1:17:25
Russo: do you feel like you need to sign Dumba and Kuemper first to figure out exactly how many pennies you have left? Or can you make a move before you get that done?
Fletcher: We can make a move before then. I think we have a pretty good idea what the market place for those players are. In fact we've had conversations with their agents and I don't think there's a wild discrepancy in how we value them and how they value them.
I guess you just hear what you want to hear?
Fletcher did say that the reason he hasn't made any more moves(Cullen) is because he's trying to be a little patient with the money he does have left in case something/somebody unexpected shakes out. Which does makes a lot of sense to me.
Habs fan coming in peace 
With the expansion coming, I don't know what is your plan in regards of protecting your D's (Brodin, Dumba, Spurgeon and Scandella).
Would you guys be comfortable with something like :
1st 2017
Charles Hudon (Good AHL stats, NHL ready IMO, plays all 3 positions)
for
Marco Scandella
Just gauging value and needs, as we truly need a good skating LHD to play with Weber.
On your side (I might be wrong, that's why I'm on your board haha), you'll have to expose one of the 4 and you're looking to compete, so Hudon could step in and help you on offence.
With the expansion coming, I don't know what is your plan in regards of protecting your D's (Brodin, Dumba, Spurgeon and Scandella).
Would you guys be comfortable with something like :
1st 2017
Charles Hudon (Good AHL stats, NHL ready IMO, plays all 3 positions)
for
Marco Scandella
Just gauging value and needs, as we truly need a good skating LHD to play with Weber.
On your side (I might be wrong, that's why I'm on your board haha), you'll have to expose one of the 4 and you're looking to compete, so Hudon could step in and help you on offence.
Habs fan coming in peace
With the expansion coming, I don't know what is your plan in regards of protecting your D's (Brodin, Dumba, Spurgeon and Scandella).
Would you guys be comfortable with something like :
1st 2017
Charles Hudon (Good AHL stats, NHL ready IMO, plays all 3 positions)
for
Marco Scandella
Just gauging value and needs, as we truly need a good skating LHD to play with Weber.
On your side (I might be wrong, that's why I'm on your board haha), you'll have to expose one of the 4 and you're looking to compete, so Hudon could step in and help you on offence.
The Wild, like every other team in the league, are going to have to give up a talented player for free. Why would they give up an additional player for pennies on the dollar just so the player they give up for free isn't as good?
Well we have to expose two of that group actually. So the problem is if we trade one of them, we'd still be at risk of losing a second player then to the expansion draft. That's why I think Fletcher isn't willing to give one of them up for cheap. That said, a 1st + for Scandella isn't bad. There's just not a reason to get worse at the moment when we might lose a second defenseman anyway.
nickschultzfan
Registered User
- Jan 7, 2009
- 11,558
- 908
forthewild
Registered User
- Aug 17, 2009
- 4,115
- 0
Lets say that Wild have to expose one of Dumba or Brodin, trading one of them for an asset you don't have to protect such as a pick or prospects is better than exposing them and losing them.
You could be with out Brodin, or you could be Without Brodin but have a 1st round pick, one is a better choice than the other.
Wildfish
Registered User
Cullen was way more than just a 4th Line player during the Playoffs and in the regular season. He was out there a lot in critical situations, he wasn't some 4th line pug taking up a few minutes who sits in key situations or at the end of periods. He took a ton of critical defensive zone face-offs.
And his PK work was outstanding.
The guy might be 40 but thinking he's old and slow indicates the person posting that opinion doesn't watch the game.
IMO the $2 mil is absurd. $1 mil would be top end.
The Wild needs a 4th Line Center. If Graovac can't beat him out for the job, then Graovac doesn't deserve the job.
nickschultzfan
Registered User
- Jan 7, 2009
- 11,558
- 908
No, you would trade one full value this offseason and a second next. Or else you are a bad GM.
Or you take the hit in a year and still return one of the best d-cores in the NHL. We'd lose ONE player. No need to go and trade two for draft picks and then lose a player on top of that.
forthewild
Registered User
- Aug 17, 2009
- 4,115
- 0
My bad on thinking we'd only have to trade one. But this also wouldn't work because if you trade for a quality asset you'd still have to protect them anyways.
This will be an interesting situation tho, hope zucker shows a decent flash and LV takes him.
I see the expansion as a possibility. We'll either lose a forward which shouldn't impact us much as all important forwards are protected or will have had zero net cost (Staal) OR we lose a defender with a substantial caphit (although a skilled one). Either way, we'll create capspace and a roster spot for one young guy. It's not like our NHL roster will lose a guy permanently. We'll just have Olofsson/Reilly play regular minutes or one of our top forward prospects. Change is good.
Cullen scored 32 points while getting no PP TOI, and playing very good defense. He still skates well, can handle the puck, and is a decent size. If he isn't asking for term, why shouldn't he get MUCH more than 1M? I know the Pens and Wild have little cap space, but I don't see why he should take relative chump change when he clearly has more value compared to his peers. Wild would be lucky if he came here for that.
32 points is not the production of a fourth liner.
I think its his swan song. He wants the family at the games in St. Paul and to retire at home. Same as last time he signed here. He wanted to play in front of family. The only reason he was not resigned then was Fletcher didn't want to insult him with a crappy contract. Not saying he should take a $750k contract and have fun, but he should understand the Wild are cap strung and they'll most likely have to rotate him out for a few games just to keep him fresh anyways. If he would truly want to retire in Minnesota, this is the prime chance to do it.
- Status
