GDT: Trade Deadline
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This idea that I'm proposing is way unlikely but I'd say it's not completely unfeasible.
Mike Green at the trade deadline.
Not sure what the price would be since he would be a rental, and that's a dangerous game, but I'd love to unload erroricson and maybe a pick. I'd say Green is too good to be a bottom 6 defenseman, and erricson is signed reasonably enough to provide Washington a bottom 4/bottom 6 defenseman for the playoffs...
It's super unlikely to actually happen and tbh I'm not sure how you would even out the values but I'm bored at work and the thought crossed my mInd. Unfortunately it's a rash decision and if green doesn't resign we are clearly worse off, meaning someone like smith and a prospect might get Washington to bite.
Edit: realizing now smith doesn't really help washington's cup aspirations.. to dream I guess
Mike Green at the trade deadline.
Not sure what the price would be since he would be a rental, and that's a dangerous game, but I'd love to unload erroricson and maybe a pick. I'd say Green is too good to be a bottom 6 defenseman, and erricson is signed reasonably enough to provide Washington a bottom 4/bottom 6 defenseman for the playoffs...
It's super unlikely to actually happen and tbh I'm not sure how you would even out the values but I'm bored at work and the thought crossed my mInd. Unfortunately it's a rash decision and if green doesn't resign we are clearly worse off, meaning someone like smith and a prospect might get Washington to bite.
Edit: realizing now smith doesn't really help washington's cup aspirations.. to dream I guess
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I have a feeling it's going to be Phaneuf. There's a lot of smoke there and the price for Yandle wasn't very high.
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Phaneuf is a better fit for us than Yandle in my opinion too. He actually can play both sides and is worlds more physical.
Cyborg Yzerberg
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Weiss, Sproul, Jurco, Smith, and a 2016 first for Phaneuf with 1 mil retained. That is the dream.
Kronwalled55
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The thing that keeps me optimistic about Phaneuf is the fact that's he's played with some mediocre guys next to him his time in Toronto. I think Kronwall would be quite the upgrade over Jake Gardiner or before Carl Gunnarson... Just as Dion would be quite the upgrade over Jonathan Ericsson.
Or they might not mesh at all and we're stuck with an expensive 2nd pairing defenseman.
Stay tuned!
Or they might not mesh at all and we're stuck with an expensive 2nd pairing defenseman.
Stay tuned!
Kronwalled55
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A rebuilding Toronto squad probably wants nothing to do with Stephen Weiss' baggage contract. No idea what we'd give as a proven centerpiece in a Phaneuf deal.
The thing that keeps me optimistic about Phaneuf is the fact that's he's played with some mediocre guys next to him his time in Toronto. I think Kronwall would be quite the upgrade over Jake Gardiner or before Carl Gunnarson... Just as Dion would be quite the upgrade over Jonathan Ericsson.
Or they might not mesh at all and we're stuck with an expensive 2nd pairing defenseman.
Stay tuned!
I think Phaneuf would do at least acceptable on the second line. If Toronto retained salary and his price tag fit that roll I'd be comfortable with the move.
I just have a hard time seeing Phaneuf excel on a top pairing at this point.
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Weiss, Kindl, 1st, Jurco
Phaneuf (5m), 2nd
Basically a first and Jurco plus cap dumps, but I think the first plus Jurco are worth more than Dion so Toronto adds a second. I'm not sure exactly what picks they have, but whatever one is latest.
I don't know how I feel about it but I think that's how the value will look. Maybe sub Smith for Kindl... maybe. Toronto fans would probably hate this though. Meh.
Phaneuf (5m), 2nd
Basically a first and Jurco plus cap dumps, but I think the first plus Jurco are worth more than Dion so Toronto adds a second. I'm not sure exactly what picks they have, but whatever one is latest.
I don't know how I feel about it but I think that's how the value will look. Maybe sub Smith for Kindl... maybe. Toronto fans would probably hate this though. Meh.
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This is what I want to hear, please be right SoupNazi.
Would really like to keep our 1st, as I mentioned in the other thread.
Actually, I'll just bring it over...
I am warming up to the idea of Phaneuf, but I would have to pass on including a 1st, otherwise I say no. Would rather throw in an extra prospect.
We have drafted Larkin and Mantha with our last 2 first rounders. They are too vital for our re-tooling we are doing.
Last time we forked one over we could have well had Maata.
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The Leafs send Detroit their best dman, retain $2 mill, and take Weiss all for a lateish 1st and Jurco (Kindl has no value)? Oh and we add a second (which would be maybe 15 picks away from the 1st).
Nonis would be fired immediately after making that trade.
dtones520
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3 years of $4.9 million > 5 years of $7 million. I do think that taking Weiss in the deal would mean there would be no retention.
Heck, I wouldn't care if we could get Phaneuf for a reasonable deal and take on the entire contract. I think he is better than he has played in Toronto, it's just a toxic environment there with the media and fans. He wouldn't have to be the man here, he wouldn't have the insane media and fan pressure and, assuming he stays, would have the best coach in the world squeezing every bit of talent out of him like Babcock does with the majority of his players.
So, I'd be happy with something like Jurco, Sproul/Oullet, 1st (2016 preferably) for him. I'd also be willing to part with the likes of Pulkinnen and Smith if we wanted to flip the prospect and NHL ready-esque player.
With Kronner, E, Q, DD, Marchy, Phaneuf, the top6 looks great. Smith/Kindl as #7, not a big deal. I think Marchenko's play and handedness probably makes Holland a little more willing to deal XO. Plus we still have Sproul, Jensen. If Holland can do it for Kindl or Smith instead of XO, I will be floored.
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I think you're being a bit too harsh on him. He's a good defenseman on a very, very bad team coached hy an idiot for the past few seasons.
Regardless, I think KH picks up a defenseman even if it's not DP.
detredWINgs
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4.9M isn't that bad for a guy who can produce at a 0.5 pace with 11-12 minutes per game playing with scrubs. And Toronto has weak center depth as it is but it could get really ugly if they move Bozak as the rumors suggest.
dtones520
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How is adding a sold top four defenseman, with number one talent, going to **** up our team?
Laser Rayzor
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Calling it now that the smoke and buzz around Dion to Detroit will continue building leading up to tomorrow and then he'll be traded elsewhere or stay in T.O.
Kenny will either stand pat or pick up Petry/Zidlicky if they could be had for cheap.
Kenny will either stand pat or pick up Petry/Zidlicky if they could be had for cheap.
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Different years, different salaries, different trajectory... If you sweeten the pot with a better roster player or prospect, it may be doable.
My ideal scenario would be something like
TOR
-Weiss
-Smith
-2016 2nd
-prospect
DET
-Phaneuf
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detredWINgs
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FWIW, if Toronto takes Weiss and we take Phaneuf at full price, we can still go after Green in the off-season for 6-7M as long as we find a taker for Quincey, which shouldn't be hard.
