Rumor: Trade Deadline- What to Do?? Deals..Deals...Deals...

[Hawkaholic]

He is massively overpaid, on a decline, and would be a 2nd liner on a contender. What do you expect to get in return?

Massively overpaid....LOL by what, 1-2mil? On a decline, he is having his best season in a couple of years.

I'd expect to get something, better than the nothing you thought he would get.

 

[Callidusblackhawk]

He is massively overpaid, on a decline, and would be a 2nd liner on a contender. What do you expect to get in return?

Define massively overpaid. How much do you think a ~70 point 2 way center is worth?

 

[SotasicA]

Massively overpaid....LOL by what, 1-2mil? On a decline, he is having his best season in a couple of years.

I'd expect to get something, better than the nothing you thought he would get.

Alright. You get something for Toews. But it's very, very little. For Crawford, you get nothing. For Seabrook, you get nothing. For Keith, you get very little.

Blowing up the core nets very little, aside from Kane, who can net you a future franchise player. So why even bother with the other vets? Let them retire as Hawks. They suck, nobody wants them.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Define massively overpaid. How must do you think a ~70 point 2 way center is worth?

Prolly more like 60-70. But your point still stands.

His PPG this year is right around his career average, which is a solid number. He's probably overpaid by 1-2m depending on how he finishes the rest of the season. If he ends up in the upper 60s in points, or even breaking 70, I'd argue he isn't even overpaid.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Alright. You get something for Toews. But it's very, very little. For Crawford, you get nothing. For Seabrook, you get nothing. For Keith, you get very little.

Blowing up the core nets very little, aside from Kane, who can net you a future franchise player. So why even bother with the other vets? Let them retire as Hawks. They suck, nobody wants them.

You have a terrible grasp of NHL player valuation.

Go look at the last few trade deadlines. Take a look at what lesser players have brought back. Then tell me they suck, and you get very little for a Toews, Crawford, or Keith at the deadline.

Last year...

Detroit got a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for Tatar.
Buffalo got a 1st, 4th, and prospect for Evander Kane
Blues got a 1st for Stastny
Hawks got a 1st, 4th, Ejdsell for Hartman - Hahahaha, but Toews, Keith, or Crow would be worth "very little"
Hawks got a 3rd for Kempny

Nah. Couldn't get shit for Keith, Toews, or Crawford.

 

[Kurtosis]

Alright. You get something for Toews. But it's very, very little. For Crawford, you get nothing. For Seabrook, you get nothing. For Keith, you get very little.

Blowing up the core nets very little, aside from Kane, who can net you a future franchise player. So why even bother with the other vets? Let them retire as Hawks. They suck, nobody wants them.

Scorcher.

 

[Panzerspitze]

Saad - Toews - Sikura
Panarin - Hughes - Kane
DeBrincat - Strome - Dubinsky
Hayden - Kampf - Perlini/Barratt

Keith - Joker
Murphy - Gus
Forsling - Mitchell

Bob
Delia

WIN CUP!!!

we moved out AA and Manning to make even more room for Panarin...

this team would be a playoff contender folks...

Gustuvson in the Top 4?

 

[AmericanDream]

Gustuvson in the Top 4?

keep him with Murph and that works for me....

have to wait until the kids can step up, but we can do far worse than him ...ahem...Seabs and Manning as our 2nd pair technically lol!

 

[AmericanDream]

You have a terrible grasp of NHL player valuation.

Go look at the last few trade deadlines. Take a look at what lesser players have brought back. Then tell me they suck, and you get very little for a Toews, Crawford, or Keith at the deadline.

Last year...

Detroit got a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for Tatar.
Buffalo got a 1st, 4th, and prospect for Evander Kane
Blues got a 1st for Stastny
Hawks got a 1st, 4th, Ejdsell for Hartman - Hahahaha, but Toews, Keith, or Crow would be worth "very little"
Hawks got a 3rd for Kempny

Nah. Couldn't get **** for Keith, Toews, or Crawford.

all of those names Tatar, Stastny, Hartman, Kane...the Evander one, etc are all better players than Toews, Keith, Crow, Saad, etc...you didn't f***ing get the memo on this at last weeks HF troll meeting???

 

[ChiHawks10]

all of those names Tatar, Stastny, Hartman, Kane...the Evander one, etc are all better players than Toews, Keith, Crow, Saad, etc...you didn't ****ing get the memo on this at last weeks HF troll meeting???

 

[Hattrick Kane]

I really do think Gus won’t be here much longer. He just doesn’t have the brain capacity to be a top 4 dman. Next year, I’m willing to bet at least one of the kids passes him, and he will become expendable.

 

[goldenbladz1]

No interest in giving out a long term big money to Bob or any goalie really. Too much risk. He makes 7.4 currently. He's going to want that at least, for probably 4 or so years? No thank you.

I agree that is too much for Bob. Spend on forward help and wait for the young D to come along and see what Nalimov and Delia got

 

[SotasicA]

all of those names Tatar, Stastny, Hartman, Kane...the Evander one, etc are all better players than Toews, Keith, Crow, Saad, etc...you didn't ****ing get the memo on this at last weeks HF troll meeting???

None of them were paid 10.5 per year, and the cap still exists the last I checked.

So, thanks for your opinion, but you are wrong and I am right.

 

[Kurtosis]

None of them were paid 10.5 per year, and the cap still exists the last I checked.

So, thanks for your opinion, but you are wrong and I am right.

None of them are paid 10.5 because they aren’t as good.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Saad - Toews - Sikura
Panarin - Hughes - Kane
DeBrincat - Strome - Dubinsky
Hayden - Kampf - Perlini/Barratt

Keith - Joker
Murphy - Gus
Forsling - Mitchell

Bob
Delia

WIN CUP!!!

we moved out AA and Manning to make even more room for Panarin...

this team would be a playoff contender folks...

Stone-Toews-Kakko
DeBrincat-Strome-Kane
Saad-Anisimov-Sikura/Kahun
Hayden-Kampf-Perlini

Forsling-Joker
Keith-Mitchell
Dahlstrom/Gus-Murphy
Seabrook

Bobrovsky as a UFA pickup after Crawford is moved FOR [not with] assets at the deadline.
Delia

 

[AmericanDream]

None of them were paid 10.5 per year, and the cap still exists the last I checked.

So, thanks for your opinion, but you are wrong and I am right.

Crow, Keith and Saad are paid $10.5mil??

 

[AmericanDream]

Stone-Toews-Kakko
DeBrincat-Strome-Kane
Saad-Anisimov-Sikura/Kahun
Hayden-Kampf-Perlini

Forsling-Joker
Keith-Mitchell
Dahlstrom/Gus-Murphy
Seabrook

Bobrovsky as a UFA pickup after Crawford is moved FOR [not with] assets at the deadline.
Delia

I like mine better....lol...I win!!!! no Seabs in it!

 

[RememberTheRoar]

I like mine better....lol...I win!!!! no Seabs in it!

Haha mine is more realistic because it has Seabs in it as a 7th D. I win!

 

[Pez68]

Alright. You get something for Toews. But it's very, very little. For Crawford, you get nothing. For Seabrook, you get nothing. For Keith, you get very little.

Blowing up the core nets very little, aside from Kane, who can net you a future franchise player. So why even bother with the other vets? Let them retire as Hawks. They suck, nobody wants them.

Just go away. I'm confident in saying pretty much nobody here agrees with you or cares to read your crap.

 

[AmericanDream]

NHL Now - 5 minutes on Break Up the Hawks...Brian Lawton doing a breakdown of it right now

 

[AmericanDream]

Lawton didn't even list Barratt as a top 3 forward for the organization...yikes..

Kurashev, Nordgren and Kayumov top 3 forwards...says all 3 will be NHLers and expects all three at the WJC..

Boqvist, Beaudin and Mitchell top 3 dmen...

he said McD/Bowman will have to buy down Seabs and his contract down, meaning they will pay off 25-30% of his deal that is left to move him...so a team will take Seabs because we have paid down a third of what is left on his contract (actual money) as Seabs was front loaded as well...says this will help another team needing to reach the floor but will not have to pay much of his actual dollars...and said yes Seabs has to agree to the move as well..

Hawks will be aggressive at the free agent market next year - lots of good names out there, said do not do much this year, ride it out, use top picks next draft to further the rebuild and get a few smart FA's in the summer....

he says we are 2 years away from getting back to the playoff track depending on what we do with FA's...

 

[LDF]

Lawton didn't even list Barratt as a top 3 forward for the organization...yikes..

Kurashev, Nordgren and Kayumov top 3 forwards...says all 3 will be NHLers and expects all three at the WJC..

Boqvist, Beaudin and Mitchell top 3 dmen...

he said McD/Bowman will have to buy down Seabs and his contract down, meaning they will pay off 25-30% of his deal that is left to move him...so a team will take Seabs because we have paid down a third of what is left on his contract (actual money) as Seabs was front loaded as well...says this will help another team needing to reach the floor but will not have to pay much of his actual dollars...and said yes Seabs has to agree to the move as well..

Hawks will be aggressive at the free agent market next year - lots of good names out there, said do not do much this year, ride it out, use top picks next draft to further the rebuild and get a few smart FA's in the summer....

he says we are 2 years away from getting back to the playoff track depending on what we do with FA's...

and for me..... this is thoroughly on me, i think 2 yrs is too much. we have no choice to mark off this yr as a waste and the org make the best of it. but the key players are not getting younger.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

and for me..... this is thoroughly on me, i think 2 yrs is too much. we have no choice to mark off this yr as a waste and the org make the best of it. but the key players are not getting younger.

There’s not much we can do about that beside mortgage the next decade by trading Boqvist, Mitchell, and Jokiharju.

There are no FAs that can step in and be a difference-making D like these guys could be in 2-3 years.

 

[migi]

Lol Lawton. Kayumov isn’t eligible for WJC.

 

[AmericanDream]

Lol Lawton. Kayumov isn’t eligible for WJC.

that's what I thought lol...but I couldn't check it at the time....