Trade and Free Agent Discussion Thread - 2018/2019 Season v9 - Deadline Looming

[ULF_55]

WSH paid more than market rate on Jensen, but Bowey was already the odd man out there. That's a win-win trade.

Was just wondering if the shine is that far off Bowey?

 

[Walshy7]

Eh no. It's more like a 23 year old Connor Carrick and a 2nd.

Connor carrick? well then that's a steal. Borgman and a 2nd would have done it

 

[SprDaVE]

what suggests he is good enough for top4 D from game 1?. good enough for the NHL? yeah by the end of the season he likely will be but why are we forcing him over his head right away

By watching him play? But sure, he will need to show he's good enough when he eventually plays for the Leafs, which will be in the very near future.

 

[Walshy7]

By watching him play? But sure, he will need to show he's good enough when he eventually plays for the Leafs, which will be in the very near future.

it wont be this season

 

[ULF_55]

what suggests he is good enough for top4 D from game 1?. good enough for the NHL? yeah by the end of the season he likely will be but why are we forcing him over his head right away

Disappointing they don't have any defenders that can help, not all the Marlies are teenagers.

 

[Walshy7]

Disappointing they don't have any defenders that can help, not all the Marlies are teenagers.

who then rosen and holl are in the lineup already in the post I was replying to

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Happy we stayed away from Jensen at that price.

Not down to give up a 2nd for another rental....

 

[1specter]

f***, wanted Jensen. Hope we can still sign him in the offseason for an undervalued cap hit.

 

[SprDaVE]

Disappointing they don't have any defenders that can help, not all the Marlies are teenagers.

I'd argue Rosen, Sandin and Liljegren would probably be more than capable right now. and likely upgrades on Hainsey and the depth D, but it's better if they stay with the Marlies for obvious reasons.

 

[ShaneFalco]

 

[LeafChief]

 

[Leaffan1991]

First of all I think Babcock has a ton of say in player personnel or Gardiner, Hainsey, Brown, Zaitsev would be dealt away by now. Dubas loves the guys who can play Nylander, Marner, Johnsson, Kap etc..
We are going to be disappointed when he trades for Glendening and Kronwall (Babcock will push hard)

 

[dubplatepressure]

I remember the JVR trade return from Washington this board wanted bowey. That's a decent haul for Detroit. Its basically Liljegren and a 2nd no? not a chance I do that

How in the world do you compare Bowey to Liljegren?

 

[Gabriel426]

First of all I think Babcock has a ton of say in player personnel or Gardiner, Hainsey, Brown, Zaitsev would be dealt away by now. Dubas loves the guys who can play Nylander, Marner, Johnsson, Kap etc..
We are going to be disappointed when he trades for Glendening and Kronwall (Babcock will push hard)

I don't mind Glendening esp if it is for Brown. As Glendening is an upgrade to Brown in every way, from their play on ice to their contract.

 

[613Leafer]

I like Jensen, but not at that price for him as a pending UFA.

 

[Deebo]

The west could get interesting.

Flames and Jets big game hunting.

We've heard Nashville being in on Duchene.

So can someone explain how the Jets have 25 million in cap space at the deadline, and the Flames have 5.7?

I've heard before at the deadline you can squeeze huge contracts in, even if you have little cap space, based on TD Cap space, I've also heard that isn't the case?

Does traded deadline day cap space exist in our reality?

How much can the Jets pickup compared to the Flames?

Full year cap hit for a team is calculated by taking the combining daily cap hit (AAV divided by the number of days in the season) for every player on the roster for each day of the season and it adding together to get your full year cap hit.

There are around 40 days left in the season as of the deadline and there are 186 days in the season. 40/186 is around 21.5% so a player with a 10M AAV on deadline day would only cost the team that acquires him 2.15M in cap space.

 

[Menzinger]

The prospects traded were taken in the mid to late round.

Good reason to not give away picks like candy for questionable players, they can always be used later on down the road for a better asset (if your scouting and team development is decent)

 

[araisarena]

the plus of having added a Jensen would have meant adding a guy that's a positive player in place of sitting a negative player (Zaitsev or Hainsey) so that's the problem. We are allowing negative players in the lineup play meaningful minutes.

 

[ShaneFalco]

I like Jensen, but not at that price for him as a pending UFA.

Plus who knows how babcock would utilize him?

 

[MyBudJT]

the plus of having added a Jensen would have meant adding a guy that's a positive player in place of sitting a negative player (Zaitsev or Hainsey) so that's the problem. We are allowing negative players in the lineup play meaningful minutes.

I'm not convinced.

I don't think Jensen is all that much of an upgrade on either Hainsey or Zaitsev that warrants trading a 2nd and depth peice (lets say Ozhiganov).

 

[SprDaVE]

 

[Rare Jewel]

I like Jensen, but not at that price for him as a pending UFA.

After the Muzzin deal no probably not.

But without, a pick flip with a prospect isn't that bad.

 

[43Kadri43]

I don't mind Glendening esp if it is for Brown. As Glendening is an upgrade to Brown in every way, from their play on ice to their contract.

lol no

 

[nuck]

Bowey AND a 2nd... good for Det

I think Bowey was to balance money more than add value. On the Caps board they don't seem too concerned about his loss.

 

[araisarena]

I'm not convinced.

I don't think Jensen is all that much of an upgrade on either Hainsey or Zaitsev that warrants trading a 2nd and depth peice (lets say Ozhiganov).

lmaooooooooooooo. They get deployed similarly and Jensen blows both those sorry defensemen out the water. Zaitsev and Hainsey are among a handful of the worst defensemen in the league, for 2 years now. And they take up 2/3rds of ice time per game. so 66% of games we have bottom league NHL defenseman playing. On a team with cup aspirations.