Speculation: Trade and Free Agency Talk - LIV

[Wabit]

This is kind of why I feel like a Fiala trade is gonna look more like Connor Brown, OTT 2nd, decent prospect, rather than the top prospect or high draft pick we all want.

I dunno what the Fiala trade will look like. I think the 7oa from OTT is possible, but that is mostly due to my view of this draft class. If this was the Boldy draft class then no way would it be on the table.

I still think there is a chance that a NJD trade happens with something weird like Holtz + Zacha + 2nd for Fiala and Talbot.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Am I looking at something wrong, or do Middleton, Deslauries and Duhaime all have more PP time in the playoffs than Dumba has?

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

I'm locked in on Holtz. Guy can score and fits our age group

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Am I looking at something wrong, or do Middleton, Deslauries and Duhaime all have more PP time in the playoffs than Dumba has?

that may be due to the late game PP and him just throwing the 4th line out there with the 3rd pair d also.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I'm locked in on Holtz. Guy can score and fits our age group

Yeah, I think this has the best probability (of all of the somewhat likely scenarios) of being the Wild's equivalent of the Diggs/Jefferson trade.

 

[Wild11MN]

Am I looking at something wrong, or do Middleton, Deslauries and Duhaime all have more PP time in the playoffs than Dumba has?

You appear to be correct, but the numbers are so small it could have just been the 4th line on the PP at the end of a blowout.

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Russo has repeatedly said that Dumba's injury has made it difficult for him to shoot, so I assume they don't think he has any value being out there. They've also been running four forwards and only one D on the PP.

 

[Bazeek]

I'm locked in on Holtz. Guy can score and fits our age group

In a roundabout way I think Holtz could give us an eventual Zuccarello replacement. Completely different players, but between Kaprizov, Boldy, Rossi and Holtz you should be able to build two scoring lines.

I do worry about some of the criticism I've seen of his skating, but I've seen similar stuff said about Boldy and Rossi... and Kaprizov, for that matter (ha). Either way, a player like that seems like a better fit to me than even a high 2022 or 2023 pick.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

You appear to be correct, but the numbers are so small it could have just been the 4th line on the PP at the end of a blowout.

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Russo has repeatedly said that Dumba's injury has made it difficult for him to shoot, so I assume they don't think he has any value being out there. They've also been running four forwards and only one D on the PP.

if he cant shoot it really makes you wonder if he holds much more value than addison or kulikov in his spot. you would think if he struggles shooting that hitting and other basics may be difficult also.

 

[Wild11MN]

if he cant shoot it really makes you wonder if he holds much more value than addison or kulikov in his spot. you would think if he struggles shooting that hitting and other basics may be difficult also.

They must trust him defensively over the rest still?

 

[DeagleJenkins]

They must trust him defensively over the rest still?

that or they really like his voice in the lockerroom, i suppose watching him get hyped for Duhaimes fight does show he has quite the fire in him and that can be beneficial but words are only so effective when you cant back them up.

 

[AKL]

that or they really like his voice in the lockerroom, i suppose watching him get hyped for Duhaimes fight does show he has quite the fire in him and that can be beneficial but words are only so effective when you cant back them up.

Yeah if the biggest thing he brings is leadership or his locker room personality, that's not worth 6M. You can bring in a guy who can do that for less than 2M, easily. And if the locker room collapses because Dumba isn't in it anymore, we have bigger problems.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Yeah if the biggest thing he brings is leadership or his locker room personality, that's not worth 6M. You can bring in a guy who can do that for less than 2M, easily. And if the locker room collapses because Dumba isn't in it anymore, we have bigger problems.

agree completely. id rather see addison in the lineup over him today if its true he cannot shoot and is limited by a shoulder issue. if its all speculation than keep him in over addison unless we are going big change tonight. really shake it up and throw in some shock and sit brodin, looks like throwing in the white flag but then we win and he is back for game 7 woot woot! (sarcasm, no universe is that worth while to contemplate)

 

[AKL]

agree completely. id rather see addison in the lineup over him today if its true he cannot shoot and is limited by a shoulder issue. if its all speculation than keep him in over addison unless we are going big change tonight. really shake it up and throw in some shock and sit brodin, looks like throwing in the white flag but then we win and he is back for game 7 woot woot! (sarcasm, no universe is that worth while to contemplate)

I think some people feel (myself included) that Boldy should have gotten some playoff experience last year when he looked NHL ready, so that he'd know what it's like this year. I know Addison technically got 3 games last year, but at this point, with your back against the wall, and most of the vets aren't doing any good, put Addison in to continue getting him playoff experience. That way, next year, if he is on the team full time, he doesn't look like he doesn't know what's going on. If Rossi were healthy I'd advocate for trying him too.

Kaprizov-Hartman-Boldy
Fiala-Rossi-Zuccarello
GREEF
Dewar-Jost-Bjugstad

Brodin-Goligoski (I hate it too)
Middleton-Spurgeon
Kulikov-Addison

Talbot

Try something like that and see what happens. With Rossi injured, put Jost in his spot and Gaudreau on that fourth line. That's what I'd realistically do tonight. If they're really deadset on keeping Dumba in the lineup for his defense and other intangibles, sit Goligoski.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

I think some people feel (myself included) that Boldy should have gotten some playoff experience last year when he looked NHL ready, so that he'd know what it's like this year. I know Addison technically got 3 games last year, but at this point, with your back against the wall, and most of the vets aren't doing any good, put Addison in to continue getting him playoff experience. That way, next year, if he is on the team full time, he doesn't look like he doesn't know what's going on. If Rossi were healthy I'd advocate for trying him too.

Kaprizov-Hartman-Boldy
Fiala-Rossi-Zuccarello
GREEF
Dewar-Jost-Bjugstad

Brodin-Goligoski (I hate it too)
Middleton-Spurgeon
Kulikov-Addison

Talbot

Try something like that and see what happens. With Rossi injured, put Jost in his spot and Gaudreau on that fourth line. That's what I'd realistically do tonight. If they're really deadset on keeping Dumba in the lineup for his defense and other intangibles, sit Goligoski.

I agree, i wanted Boldy in last year for that spark. Could see the same idea with Addison.

with the way some of these guys are playing id swap Jost and Hartman in that lineup. Freddy at least wins faceoffs so leaving him their over Rossi works for me considering Rossi is not healthy.

Defense i wouldnt mind them going with:

Brodin-Spurgeon
Middelton-Addison
Kulikov-Goligoski

Brodin covers for Spurgeon playing overly offensive.
Middleton covers for Addisons lack of physicality.
3rd pair needs to play 3rd pair minutes in a must win game.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

I'd try Brodin with Addison early on, just to see how it goes. Remember how f***ing stupid Dumba was a few years ago, and Brodin was still able to let him do his thing? Worth trying in my mind early.

*Next season^

 

[DeagleJenkins]

I'd try Brodin with Addison early on, just to see how it goes. Remember how f***ing stupid Dumba was a few years ago, and Brodin was still able to let him do his thing? Worth trying in my mind early.

*Next season^

my thoughts exactly. with trading dumba id slap addison right in that spot simply because both are quality at moving that puck quickly up ice so that pair could be very good together.

 

[AKL]

Brodin might help Addison improve his D game too

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

I think Addison probably gets traded

 

[DeagleJenkins]

I think Addison probably gets traded

With Fiala or by himself?

 

[Bazeek]

I think Addison probably gets traded

Same, which surprises me a little but it wasn't like Pittsburgh had a wealth of options to pick from in that deal.

 

[57special]

They are playing Dumba because he can skate and get to pucks, not because he is good in the dressing room. Besides Brodin, and Dpurgeon, the rest of our d have very slow feet. I don't like Dumba's mistakes, I don't like that he can't shoot, but he can skate.

Management obviously don't think Addison is good enough to play. I don't get it.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Hate how Kevin played in the playoffs. If he has to go, give me holtz

 

[AKL]

Hate how Kevin played in the playoffs. If he has to go, give me holtz

The timing obviously sucks, especially after the regular season he had. He was our only player to show up in the playoffs two years ago. So I know he's going to show up for his next team.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

The timing obviously sucks, especially after the regular season he had. He was our only player to show up in the playoffs two years ago. So I know he's going to show up for his next team.

*our next team

 

[AKL]

*our next team

I do think the Devils would be easy for me to cheer for, compared to some of the other options