Speculation: Trade and Free Agency Talk - 2022-23 Edition - Postseason Success can't be a Myth!

[AKL]

I have a feeling this could be a long summer. I don't really trust Guerin to make trades or sign guys. Especially the Fiala trade and potential Fleury contract. I have a feeling we're going to get older and more physical at the expense of speed, skill and youth.

I will say though, I do like his strategy last summer with getting Pitlick, Gaudreau, even a guy like Merrill to an extent. Both Gaudreau and Pitlick had never really had a spot on an NHL roster before, so they're hungry and motivated to win one. Wouldn't mind another one or two of those type of moves, but maybe let's not pen them into the top six with a sharpie this time.

 

[Webster]

Guerin is a wild card, nobody knows what will happen. He'll even sell Zuccarello & Webster if he gets a great offer

 

[Wabit]

Guerin is a wild card, nobody knows what will happen. He'll even sell Zuccarello & Webster if he gets a great offer

What would be a great deal for Webster? It's like $12 on Amazon.

 

[TwiztedHeat]

I cannot stress how bad he was in their series against the Rags, like horrendously bad. $5M is fine, but he's not one ounce of what he used to be.

Tbf I don’t expect him to be what he once was, I just expect him to be a better C than Hartman/Jost/Gaudreau and the price tag would reflect it.

 

[Bazeek]

Not a fan.

 

[Spurgeon]

Not a fan.

Allocating cap to both Fleury & Talbot seems unwise.

Guerin’s has been surprisingly lackadaisical with his cap allocation post-buyouts.

Merill + Goli signings @ $3.2M are a lot for what should be the #7 D spot

Greenway @ $3M is fair and the GREEF line can be a crucial element of a successful team, but he’s our 9th forward.

Jost @ $2M for a 4th line role

Just a lot of cap being allocated to spots where this team could have saved a few million instead.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Not a fan.

did he actually speak the words " i will try to sign fleury"?? if its just the media talk of we will work something out and hopefully everyone is happy mumbo jumbo then i dont care about this tweet.

 

[Bazeek]

did he actually speak the words " i will try to sign fleury"?? if its just the media talk of we will work something out and hopefully everyone is happy mumbo jumbo then i dont care about this tweet.

It could be typical non-committal, end-of-season "we love everyone" talk, but if they had no intention to make an offer he'd probably have said something more vague.

Ultimately it's not a big deal either way since I don't think the stakes are all that high next year. I just think spending $6m+ on a goalie tandem under next year's cap constraints would be kind of gross.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

It could be typical non-committal, end-of-season "we love everyone" talk, but if they had no intention to make an offer he'd probably have said something more vague.

Ultimately it's not a big deal either way since I don't think the stakes are all that high next year. I just think spending $6m+ on a goalie tandem under next year's cap constraints would be kind of gross.

to be fair, if he is expecting Fialas cap off the books with little to no cap coming back i suppose 2m on fleury wont matter much.

EDIT: with listening to the presser right now this just came up. its purely answering the question of "what do you do with the controversy now with Cam and MAF" or something along those lines and he simply said" you all make a bigger deal out of this than it is, we want both back. cam is signed another year and there is no issue there, both are good players and good people."

really a nothing comment.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

As it stands now, with no Fiala but adding Rossi, we'd have ~$5.5M to re-sign Fleury, Middleton a 4th line RW and a 13th forward.

Gonna be a hard sell to the fans that next year is going to be anything different.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

As it stands now, with no Fiala but adding Rossi, we'd have ~$5.5M to re-sign Fleury, Middleton a 4th line RW and a 13th forward.

Gonna be a hard sell to the fans that next year is going to be anything different.

trading Kulikov would help with that which i assume will happen.

 

[57special]

did he actually speak the words " i will try to sign fleury"?? if its just the media talk of we will work something out and hopefully everyone is happy mumbo jumbo then i dont care about this tweet.

Basically, yes. I was listening. he said, "We want him back"

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Basically, yes. I was listening. he said, "We want him back"

i heard it differently when i listened.

 

[BagHead]

Not a fan.

Why give 7 million to one good goalie, when you can give it to two mediocre ones?

 

[mezcal]

I love Flower but starting to wonder if we will ever get past Guerin and his good ole boys

I can’t believe we extended Goligoski

 

[Wabit]

I love Flower but starting to wonder if we will ever get past Guerin and his good ole boys

I can’t believe we extended Goligoski

I'm waiting to hear he offered up Kap as part of a trade to get Crosby.

Only half serious on this.

Or trade both Dumba and Fiala and try to sign Malkin and Letang as UFAs.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Inspired by a main board thread, somebody show me where the great flaw in the following is:

To Columbus
2nd overall pick in 2022

To New Jersey
6th overall pick in 2022
Fiala (extended)
Minnesota's 2022 1st round pick (25-27 probably)

To Minnesota
Holtz
12th overall pick in 2022

Columbus gives up #6 and #12 to move up to #2.
Minnesota trades Fiala for Holtz + moving up in ~13-15 spots in the 1st round
New Jersey gains Fiala + late first for Holtz + moving down 4 spots

I think NJ might need a little something more coming their way.

 

[keppel146]

Inspired by a main board thread, somebody show me where the great flaw in the following is:

To Columbus
2nd overall pick in 2022

To New Jersey
6th overall pick in 2022
Fiala (extended)
Minnesota's 2022 1st round pick (25-27 probably)

To Minnesota
Holtz
12th overall pick in 2022

Columbus gives up #6 and #12 to move up to #2.
Minnesota trades Fiala for Holtz + moving up in ~13-15 spots in the 1st round
New Jersey gains Fiala + late first for Holtz + moving down 4 spots

I think NJ might need a little something more coming their way.

Imo Columbus gets the short end of the stick. Imo, not a good draft to have 2nd oa. I’d rather have NJ and MN offers. Maybe that’s it?

 

[Wabit]

Imo Columbus gets the short end of the stick. Imo, not a good draft to have 2nd oa. I’d rather have NJ and MN offers. Maybe that’s it?

I think it's a bad draft to have 1oa. Slaf and Nemec are on par with other draft's top d-man and wings and fine for a 2oa pick.

It's just another weak draft year for centers.

 

[57special]

Kinda worried that Guerin trades Fiala for Malkin and PIT's 1st.

 

[Wabit]

Kinda worried that Guerin trades Fiala for Malkin and PIT's 1st.

Malkin's rights?

 

[57special]

Malkin's rights?

Whatev

 

[Wabit]

Whatev

It could be Letang's rights instead of Malkin's...

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

If you had the choice of Ottawa's 2022 1st or their 2023 1st that was top 12 protected, which do you choose?

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

If you had the choice of Ottawa's 2022 1st or their 2023 1st that was top 12 protected, which do you choose?

2022 1st. I like that range in this draft. And, we need reinforcements soon to win with Kaprizov.