Friedman: Toronto looking at forwards

[Imnotagoodposter]

Bogosian for Galchenyuk and a 4th

 

[Halla]

How about
Buch 3.25 expiring w/rfa + Strome 4.5 x 2 expiring ufa + Howden 863,333 end of elc -> rfa + DiGiuseppe .7m expiring + BUF 2021 3rd
ballpark a hair over 9, four Fs
for
Nylander 6.962,366 x4
Vesey .9 expiring
Simmonds 1.5 expiring
+ TOR 2020 2nd
ballpark a hair under 9.5 three Fs

Buch fills in top 6 W Strome = mid 6 pivot/RW, Howden = bottom 6 pivot w speed.
objective for added depth realized, slightly improve precious cap

Rangers get best player, slightly better pick, consolidate depth


thoughts?

my thought is that this is awful for TO. Nylander has 35g/70pts in 80 games since game 1 last year (including playoffs). you dont trade that for lesser pieces to save what 500k? and you have the leafs giving up a better pick as well? lawl.

Make it Buchnevich+Fox and maybe the leafs think about it

 

[Halla]

the leafs passing on Ennis pretty much puts this rumor to bed.
Engvall is definitely one of their top 12 forwards and boyd just scored in his first game.

Engvall, Barabanov,Boyd,Spezza, Brooks and Anderson can hold the fort on the 4th line until robertson and thornton come back

 

[Mike Jones]

Engvall, Barabanov,Boyd,Spezza, Brooks and Anderson can hold the fort on the 4th line until robertson and thornton come back

Boyd seemed to have a good game tonight so has hopefully earned a chance to play a few games until the injury situation gets sorted out a bit.

 

[NoName]

Lucic for Nylander. Leafs save 1.5M in cap.

Nah... we will take Johnny Gaudreau instead.

 

[NoName]

How about
Buch 3.25 expiring w/rfa + Strome 4.5 x 2 expiring ufa + Howden 863,333 end of elc -> rfa + DiGiuseppe .7m expiring + BUF 2021 3rd
ballpark a hair over 9, four Fs
for
Nylander 6.962,366 x4
Vesey .9 expiring
Simmonds 1.5 expiring
+ TOR 2020 2nd
ballpark a hair under 9.5 three Fs

Buch fills in top 6 W Strome = mid 6 pivot/RW, Howden = bottom 6 pivot w speed.
objective for added depth realized, slightly improve precious cap

Rangers get best player, slightly better pick, consolidate depth


thoughts?

Oh yes, please give us your spare parts and we will send you our star young winger in Nylander! Oh and take a better pick exchange too

 

[Pizza!Pizza!]

Oh yes, please give us your spare parts and we will send you our star young winger in Nylander! Oh and take a better pick exchange too

Red Wings counter offer Mantha and Bernier plus a 1st rounder for Nylander, Muzzin and Andersen.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

the leafs passing on Ennis pretty much puts this rumor to bed.
Engvall is definitely one of their top 12 forwards and boyd just scored in his first game.

Engvall, Barabanov,Boyd,Spezza, Brooks and Anderson can hold the fort on the 4th line until robertson and thornton come back

No it doesn't it just means Ennis isn't good enough, I can easily see them looking at Tanner Pearson, or Brandon Sutter at deadline, or Derek Ryan, Miles Wood, Kyle Palmeri, Eric Staal, Cedric Paquet, any number of guys.

Not claiming Tyler Ennis means nothing except that Tyler Ennis isn't good enough

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Boyd seemed to have a good game tonight so has hopefully earned a chance to play a few games until the injury situation gets sorted out a bit.

He was good

 

[bernmeister]

my thought is that this is awful for TO. Nylander has 35g/70pts in 80 games since game 1 last year (including playoffs). you dont trade that for lesser pieces to save what 500k? and you have the leafs giving up a better pick as well? lawl.

Make it Buchnevich+Fox and maybe the leafs think about it

You give to get.
Nylander is only non futures asset of interest to NY.
You want depth, which is OP premise, you pay.
If not, fine, stick w/what you have and continue to likely fail.

Buch + for Nyl has long been a premise.
? is what is the ?.
Fox is a non starter and on his own is worth more than Nylander, who is talented, but some argue soft.

Oh yes, please give us your spare parts and we will send you our star young winger in Nylander! Oh and take a better pick exchange too

See above.
OP premise about need for Leafs to get real and provide depth is being ignored.
You grossly undervalue Buch, and to lesser extent Howden and even DiG.

 

[MisterT]

You give to get.
Nylander is only non futures asset of interest to NY.
You want depth, which is OP premise, you pay.
If not, fine, stick w/what you have and continue to likely fail.

Buch + for Nyl has long been a premise.
? is what is the ?.
Fox is a non starter and on his own is worth more than Nylander, who is talented, but some argue soft.



See above.
OP premise about need for Leafs to get real and provide depth is being ignored.
You grossly undervalue Buch, and to lesser extent Howden and even DiG.

What a gross overvaluing of spare parts. However, it is consistent with the posters terribly one-sided offers he makes to every team.

Only shock is that it doesn’t include DeAngelo - another piece constantly overvalued by this homer.

 

[Stickpucker]

Eric Staal always played well in Toronto against them. Too bad they didn't have cap to acquire him cheap in the offseason.

 

[innitfam]

Don't the Leafs have like 15 NHL caliber forwards?

 

[Bust]

Buch + for Nyl has long been a premise.
? is what is the ?.

A premise to who exactly? I have never once heard a leaf fan even mention Buchnevich as a potential trade target, nevermind pigeonholing Nylander as the predetermined trade price. That + better be pretty substantial as while Buch is a decent player, he is not even close in potential trade value.


Like you say, you gotta give to get. I’ve seen you post multiple trade offers involving Nylander, usually with DeAngelo as the main player coming back. You want Willy? Start with one of Kakko/Fox.

 

[Team Cozens]

Carl Soderberg makes sense to me.

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

You give to get.
Nylander is only non futures asset of interest to NY.
You want depth, which is OP premise, you pay.
If not, fine, stick w/what you have and continue to likely fail.

Buch + for Nyl has long been a premise.
? is what is the ?.
Fox is a non starter and on his own is worth more than Nylander, who is talented, but some argue soft.



See above.
OP premise about need for Leafs to get real and provide depth is being ignored.
You grossly undervalue Buch, and to lesser extent Howden and even DiG.

Lafreniere looks like he's a bust, how about a 2nd, Agostino, Boyd, Engvall, and Woll for Lafreniere?

Imagine trying to get Nylander for that garbage. Embarrassing.

 

[bernmeister]

Lafreniere looks like he's a bust, how about a 2nd, Agostino, Boyd, Engvall, and Woll for Lafreniere?

Imagine trying to get Nylander for that garbage. Embarrassing.

Okay, you took your pot shot.
You ignore honest consideration of OP premise at yr own peril.
Choke on your top heavy, lack of depth roster.

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

Okay, you took your pot shot.
You ignore honest consideration of OP premise at yr own peril.
Choke on your top heavy, lack of depth roster.

We're 6-2.....we're not trading Nylander.

Aren't the rangers like 1-6?

 

[Martin Skoula]

Okay, you took your pot shot.
You ignore honest consideration of OP premise at yr own peril.
Choke on your top heavy, lack of depth roster.

What do you call it when you're neither top heavy nor deep like the Rangers?

 

[HotDish]

Bonino, Johansson, or Bjugstad. Interest you? Wild would retain.

 

[Throwback]

Do the Kings have an internal cap? They have a number of cheap contracts. If they have the flexibility they could have some player movement.

 

[GBLeaf]

Nylander is such good value for his contract, no-one's getting him without something substantial heading to Toronto.

 

[TML1967]

What does a guy like Crouse or Larsson cost from Arizona?

 

[holdyoucloser2003]

Nylander for Poolpary and Bouchard.

 

[broc]

How about
Buch 3.25 expiring w/rfa + Strome 4.5 x 2 expiring ufa + Howden 863,333 end of elc -> rfa + DiGiuseppe .7m expiring + BUF 2021 3rd
ballpark a hair over 9, four Fs
for
Nylander 6.962,366 x4
Vesey .9 expiring
Simmonds 1.5 expiring
+ TOR 2020 2nd
ballpark a hair under 9.5 three Fs

Buch fills in top 6 W Strome = mid 6 pivot/RW, Howden = bottom 6 pivot w speed.
objective for added depth realized, slightly improve precious cap

Rangers get best player, slightly better pick, consolidate depth


thoughts?

Thoughts? Okay.

The only thing of value in that heap you posted from the NYR side, is Buchnevich.... who is due a new contract after this season. And he’s gonna easily get 6 something if he puts up his 50-60 pts or so.

Strome had an outlier season last year, and now is pretty much a negative value player with his contract (as many ppl suspected after last season, and few ppl wanted to “buy”). You’d have to pay someone to take him at this point I suspect. You’re stuck with Strome unless maybe you manage to flip him for another negative value player.

Howden? Um, okay, I guess? He hasn’t shown much. I guess he’d be an adequate 4th liner.

Di Giuseppe? Bleh. Dime a dozen waiver claim type player. Zero value, zero interest. No one cares.
Buf 3rd.

Considering Buch next season should be getting paid much closer to what Nylander gets paid now on a contract with term, it’s not worth taking that fat load of “meh” (not to mention negative asset Strome).

and you have Toronto giving the better pick, lol.

This is an unnecessarily complicated trade very obviously lopsided in NYR favour.