TieClark
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true and Philly has better assets to parlay. Leafs wouldn't be in this position if they drafted better.
Why do you think, we will sink again?
We routinely got massacred in the shot count, and made it through on great goaltending and a league-high shooting percentage. That's not enough for me to say we're going to fall on our face next year, but it's sure as hell enough for me not to trade next year's first.
Remember when it was alright to trade the 2010 1st because Kessel was going to come in and bump us into the playoffs? Yeah, lesson learned.
We routinely got massacred in the shot count, and made it through on great goaltending and a league-high shooting percentage. That's not enough for me to say we're going to fall on our face next year, but it's sure as hell enough for me not to trade next year's first.
Remember when it was alright to trade the 2010 1st because Kessel was going to come in and bump us into the playoffs? Yeah, lesson learned.
Hardly a deterrent.
But we're not acquiring Phil Kessel here.
Sorry, I should've made it clearer I wasn't referring to you specifically with any of that, haha. Those were just some silly things I've been reading in this thread.I've neither asserted his save % would drop here, nor have I made any comparisons to Toskala, so you're not right.
We routinely got massacred in the shot count, and made it through on great goaltending and a league-high shooting percentage. That's not enough for me to say we're going to fall on our face next year, but it's sure as hell enough for me not to trade next year's first.
Remember when it was alright to trade the 2010 1st because Kessel was going to come in and bump us into the playoffs? Yeah, lesson learned.
Leafs traded 2 X 1sts and a high 2nd for instant offense and ended up finishing in the bottom 5 overall in the 2 of the past 3 seasons prior to this last season.
The difference here is that the rumour is it will take a 1st rounder to acquire Bernier, but investment would be made in defense, as opposed to offense.
"Defense wins championships, and good teams are built from the goalie out".. So while I hope we can acquire Bernier without it costing us a 1st round pick, but at least I would take solace in knowing the investment is being used towards key building components.
Because you aren't going to get a #1C or top-pairing defenseman for Matt Frattin and a pickWhy is Nonis willing to throw away some important assets at what is essentially a redundancy, when he can use these very same assets to plug a very crucial hole at D or C.
Leafs traded 2 X 1sts and a high 2nd for instant offense and ended up finishing in the bottom 5 overall in the 2 of the past 3 seasons prior to this last season.
The difference here is that the rumour is it will take a 1st rounder to acquire Bernier, but investment would be made in defense, as opposed to offense.
"Defense wins championships, and good teams are built from the goalie out".. So while I hope we can acquire Bernier without it costing us a 1st round pick, but at least I would take solace in knowing the investment is being used towards key building components.
Leafs have a higher shooting percentage because they score more off of the rush. It's not like every team plays exactly the same style and every teams has to average the same amount of shots. Leafs have had a higher than average shooting % for years and years. It doesn't regress. Our goal-tending save % last season was decent at worst, but we still give up too many shots, which tells me that our D is lacking. To contend, we need to put someone beside Phaneuf, and to replace some of his minutes, because when Phaneuf plays too much, he really starts to suck.
In 2010, we saw either JS Giguere, Gustavsson and Toskala. The difference is now we have Reimer, who seems to have developed/developing into a nice number one. First rounders should be used for a higher priority, like a defensemen, or just draft with it.
Leafs traded 2 X 1sts and a high 2nd for instant offense and ended up finishing in the bottom 5 overall in the 2 of the past 3 seasons prior to this last season.
The difference here is that the rumour is it will take a 1st rounder to acquire Bernier, but investment would be made in defense, as opposed to offense.
"Defense wins championships, and good teams are built from the goalie out".. So while I hope we can acquire Bernier without it costing us a 1st round pick, but at least I would take solace in knowing the investment is being used towards key building components.
There is a ridiculous rumor circulating out there that LA Kings want Jake Gardiner in a package for Bernier and Nonis is actually thinking about it.
Just for thinking about this....FIRE NONIS!!!
Law of diminishing returns. Even if we assume that Bernier can reach the upper echelon of NHL starters, a massive if, how much is a .03-.04 increase over Reimer's .924 worth?
Not a potential top 10 pick, which is what we were talking about originally.
I'd actually reverse that and say that high picks should be used to draft and develop your own talent first and foremost, and only in exceptions where they should be used as currency to address real team needs.
The days of "draft schmaft" have to end in Toronto and Leafs adopt a similar approach to many successful teams of acquiring their future talent through the draft themselves... If you're constantly forced into going to buy your talent they you need to look internally at your own scouting staff as to why that is a requirement to do so.
According to Kyper its MLSE boss Tim Leiweke that is linked to LA, and Bernier as someone he likes.
This putting Toronto as a front runner in acquiring him.
Leiweke is NOT a hockey guy. He's a businessman and that's where it ends. He used to run the Denver Nuggets and was "the guy" teams went to when they were after new arenas, etc. Much like Tom Wilson was for the Pistons/Lightning but at a whole new level.