Confirmed with Link: TOR signs LD Mikko Lehtonen

[Notsince67]

Thanks. That's both awesome, and incredibly sad that they did it before the NHL.

I believe it is new. Not sure what the status of the nhl implementation is these days because it was supposed to be ready this post season. As of yet, I have found no reference of metadata which is kind of dumb. People could be getting their python code ready.
Last I heard, the tracking of goaltenders was problematic due to sensor positioning and the fact that they dont move through a wide space.

 

[Legion34]

No i think it’s 39 MPH with McDavid ha from second stride

that would be 60 km/h. That’s pretty unlikely

 

[Wafflewhipper]

that would be 60 km/h. That’s pretty unlikely

Atleast you know the math now haha. You just needed some motivation

 

[D00bis]

I personally grow tired of waiting for Dermott to take the next step if Lehtonen can translate his
game to the nhl why not trade Travis for a comparable boom/bust RD.

 

[RoadWarrior]

I personally grow tired of waiting for Dermott to take the next step if Lehtonen can translate his
game to the nhl why not trade Travis for a comparable boom/bust RD.

Because Dermott can play the right side. That being said he's really just a number 5 at this point. Very replaceable.

 

[D00bis]

Because Dermott can play the right side. That being said he's really just a number 5 at this point. Very replaceable.

Yeah I get that he’s versatile at the moment but I’d much rather the leafs D playing their strong side

 

[Amadeus]

I personally grow tired of waiting for Dermott to take the next step if Lehtonen can translate his
game to the nhl why not trade Travis for a comparable boom/bust RD.

Think Dermott still has potential to become a valuable top 5 D man with added experience. His progression hasn't been completely linear but we can take advantage of that and re-sign him long term for a bargain price.

 

[kb]

Think Dermott still has potential to become a valuable top 5 D man with added experience. His progression hasn't been completely linear but we can take advantage of that and re-sign him long term for a bargain price.

Dermott will need to be kept as a fallback for RD in case the Leafs can't get their targets.

Lehtonen is supposed to be able to play the right side, but I'd rather have him get comfortable on his strong side.

 

[Amadeus]

Dermott will need to be kept as a fallback for RD in case the Leafs can't get their targets.

Lehtonen is supposed to be able to play the right side, but I'd rather have him get comfortable on his strong side.

Agreed. Rather not alter a player's development or make them uncomfortable playing a position they don't excel at.

Lehtonen, Dermott, Muzzin, Sandin provide great depth at LHD for now. It should allow us to at least explore trading Rielly for a top pairing RHP (A.K.A Colton Parayko).

 

[aingefan]

Yeah, this guy is the x-factor for the 20-21 D.
His adaptation to the NHL is probabaly the most important internal development to watch for the upcoming year.
If he’s on the L side, Dermott is pretty movable imo with Sandin pushing from below. He can be supported by Holl leaving Muzz to mentor Lili (kinda my dream scenario, seeing how I love me some Lili).
If he’s on the right side, all bets are off. Does he play with Mo, Muzz? Does it mean gritty strong LD UFA become targets, like maybe Dillon?

 

[Sypher04]

Agreed. Rather not alter a player's development or make them uncomfortable playing a position they don't excel at.

Lehtonen, Dermott, Muzzin, Sandin provide great depth at LHD for now. It should allow us to at least explore trading Rielly for a top pairing RHP (A.K.A Colton Parayko).

Uhhh. We aren't trading Rielly. He is the heartbeat of this team and an excellent defenseman

 

[A1LeafNation]

Rielly _______
Muzzin Holl
Sandin Liljegren
Lehtonen _______

We need a top pair RD for Rielly and we need a vet to push Holl and Liljegren for those RD spots.

Dermott is probably the odd man out.

Dermott Johnsson and/Kerfoot for a top 4 RHD or assets that can get you one.

 

[Warden of the North]

Because Dermott can play the right side. That being said he's really just a number 5 at this point. Very replaceable.

I mean anyone can play either side.

If they suck at it it's not an accomplishment.

 

[080]

Rielly _______
Muzzin Holl
Sandin Liljegren
Lehtonen _______

We need a top pair RD for Rielly and we need a vet to push Holl and Liljegren for those RD spots.

Dermott is probably the odd man out.

Dermott Johnsson and/Kerfoot for a top 4 RHD or assets that can get you one.

Dermott is better than all of those players. Sandin and Liljegren aren't even NHL players at this point. And we have no idea what Lehtonen is. Dermott is a decent all around player and plays hard every shift. While he may be useful as a package, on a team that has compete issues and a shoddy blueline, it's better to keep him if possible.

If we have that as our third pairing we can solve some of our cap issues by drafting first overall next year and getting a solid player to step right in on an entry-level contract.

 

[LeafParade]

Reilly - X
Muzzin - Holl
Lehtonon - Dermott

This the most likely scenario to the start the season.

Lehtonen starts sheltered on third pairing as he adapts to NHL, and Dermott is sheltered on third pairing as he starts out on the right side. If either of these two guys start to make strides, then the pairings get juggled again. I could see Dermott moving up the right side pairings.

There is also a chance Lehtonen demonstrates he play the right side because he has done it before. I just figure its an easier transition for Dermott.

 

[Leafs87]

Reilly - X
Muzzin - Holl
Lehtonon - Dermott

This the most likely scenario to the start the season.

Lehtonen starts sheltered on third pairing as he adapts to NHL, and Dermott is sheltered on third pairing as he starts out on the right side. If either of these two guys start to make strides, then the pairings get juggled again. I could see Dermott moving up the right side pairings.

There is also a chance Lehtonen demonstrates he play the right side because he has done it before. I just figure its an easier transition for Dermott.

if we go in with that it will be a repeat of last year. I hope we target Gudas and/or Tanev.

Holl should on the bottom pairing, regardless of his chemistry with Muzzin

 

[The Shrike]

Rielly _______
Muzzin Holl
Sandin Liljegren
Lehtonen _______

We need a top pair RD for Rielly and we need a vet to push Holl and Liljegren for those RD spots.

Dermott is probably the odd man out.

Dermott Johnsson and/Kerfoot for a top 4 RHD or assets that can get you one.

Rielly - Colin Miller
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin - Gudas
Lehtonen

 

[kb]

Rielly - Colin Miller
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin - Gudas
Lehtonen

Hell no. lol
Buffalo/Vegas' sometimes healthy scratch is definitely not the answer for the Leafs top pairing.

 

[showtime8]

Rielly - Colin Miller
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin - Gudas
Lehtonen

Move Colin Miller to play beside Sandin and that looks a lot better. But also, remove Gudas and find someone to play with Rielly.

 

[Drew311]

Rielly _______
Muzzin Holl
Sandin Liljegren
Lehtonen _______

We need a top pair RD for Rielly and we need a vet to push Holl and Liljegren for those RD spots.

Dermott is probably the odd man out.

Dermott Johnsson and/Kerfoot for a top 4 RHD or assets that can get you one.

No chance they have Sandin and Liljegren start the season as a pairing. Too little experience and doesn't put either player in a situation to succeed. I'll bet my left nut they sign a mean stay-at-home RHD to penalty kill. Liljegren would be the first call up if an injury pops up on the right side.

 

[realgoodleafs]

Uhhh. We aren't trading Rielly. He is the heartbeat of this team and an excellent defenseman

This team doesn't have a heartbeat lol

 

[seanlinden]

Can anyone elaborate on how Lehtonen's contract works?

Jokerit is just going to let him walk in the middle of their season when the NHL gets going??

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As for how he fits in, I do not believe Toronto is going to go into next year relying on the 2 of Sandin/Liljegren/Lehtonen to be full time NHLers.

I suspect they'll add a bonafide top 4 guy, then let either Dermott be the #5, or if they get a good offer / he's needed to address another part of the lineup, move him and sign a cheap vet.

 

[barriers]

Can anyone elaborate on how Lehtonen's contract works?

Jokerit is just going to let him walk in the middle of their season when the NHL gets going??

Yes and yes.

 

[seanlinden]

Reilly - X
Muzzin - Holl
Lehtonon - Dermott

This the most likely scenario to the start the season.

Lehtonen starts sheltered on third pairing as he adapts to NHL, and Dermott is sheltered on third pairing as he starts out on the right side. If either of these two guys start to make strides, then the pairings get juggled again. I could see Dermott moving up the right side pairings.

There is also a chance Lehtonen demonstrates he play the right side because he has done it before. I just figure its an easier transition for Dermott.

As much as I'd like to see greater changes than this.... I think the above is basically what you're looking at.

The Leafs like Dermott, and I think they're honestly a little afraid to trade him, knowing that he'll likely find himself slotted in very nicely as somebody's top 4 defenceman.

Lehtonen & Sandin will battle it out for the #6 role. Maybe give the edge to Lehtonen, as he would theoretically be in mid-season form? One of Calle Rosen or Martin Marincin will likely find their way into the #7/8 role.

 

[A1LeafNation]

No chance they have Sandin and Liljegren start the season as a pairing. Too little experience and doesn't put either player in a situation to succeed. I'll bet my left nut they sign a mean stay-at-home RHD to penalty kill. Liljegren would be the first call up if an injury pops up on the right side.

That's why you sign a third pair vet to battle for that #6 spot. If Lilje beats him out so be it, you have a guy who can play 3rd pair or sub in some games like a Hainsey.