Confirmed with Link: TOR signs LD Mikko Lehtonen

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  1. Dekes For Days Registered User

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    It can't be 100% perfectly isolated but we can get a pretty good idea where the issues are through measures of shot/shot attempt quantity and quality, scoring chance quantity and quality, etc.
    We've had defenders have ups and downs, and make defensive mistakes, like all players. It's just exaggerated because we're emotionally invested, so most people will always think that their defenders are worse than the opponent's.

    When people watch games, and their team gets a shot/chance/goal, they will skew significantly towards perceiving it as their offensive players doing a good job, and not the opponent's defensive players making a mistake. When their team gets a shot/chance/goal against them, they will skew significantly towards perceiving it as their defensive players doing a bad job or making a mistake. Goaltenders get a little blame, but unless the score gets really high, even they are often absolved if anything resembling a mistake can be seen at some point in time before the goal. Reality is, mistakes happen. For all players. A lot.
    We lost Muzzin (his partner) basically when he signed, and then a couple weeks later we lost Rielly, and then a couple weeks later we lost Ceci, and then a couple weeks later we lost Muzzin again.
    The past 3 years, he's been overall great, and a big part of our success. He masked a ton of issues with our horrible defense over the past 3 years. This year, he's been complete, absolute garbage in comparison. One of if not the worst starter in the league, even though our team defense was actually much improved this year.
    I'd argue it's actually the complete opposite. Under Babcock, our defense was garbage, and Andersen was great (aside from Octobers). Under Keefe, our defense has improved to league average levels (despite massive injuries), but Andersen has been horrible. I have confidence that Andersen will find his game again, but many people have trouble accepting that it's Andersen, because our defense has been so bad in the recent past. It takes a long time to shake a reputation, especially defensively.
    I think what we need more is for him to not be injured all season, but I mostly agree. Maybe we have already found that partner in this signing. People like to laugh, but he's highly regarded, and we don't need him to be a superstar to be an effective partner for Rielly. He had a career year with a heavily declining 37-38 year old Hainsey...
     
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    Yep. Dermott is the guy to watch. Hes shown flashes of great potential, juat need him to deliver it consistently (and hopefully stay healthy).

    Lehtonen is still a wild card, but im very excited to see what he can do based on some of these scouting reports.

    If he sticks all the Leafs will need is 1 smart free agency signing and they'll have a pretty good D core

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    dermott is the 2nd best blueliner on this team behind muzzin and y'all wanna trade him? nuts

    dermott should be on our top pair with muzzin, while rielly plays with holl

    why keefe hasn't done that is wack.

    muzzin-dermott
    rielly-holl
    sandin-lehtonen
    rosen

    is the d-core before trades
     
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    this about sums up your first sentence
     
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    Only agreement I have is maybe he has potential to be the 2nd best blue liner if he puts it all together and starts producing some more points.

    He hasn’t reached that yet... and is still very far away from Rielly and Muzzin in being reliable in all situations.
     
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    Radko Gudas as an FA could complete a respectable defensive core.
     
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    I know this has been answered somewhere in these 581 messages above me, but plain and simply:

    Will Lehtonen join to the team when ever 20-21 season "activities" (camps etc.) starts, or is it possible that he would be a team member, even a player, before this season ends (in, say, October or whenever)?
     
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    Does Rielly not exist?
     
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    I'm pretty sure it was signed as a 20-21 contract so can't be this current season.
     
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    Gudas is a bottom pairing defender at this point, and the Leafs do not exactly lack bottom pairing defensemen. He would effectively be a slightly better Polak, and I do not think a slightly better Polak makes our defense significantly better.
     
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    Good.

    This way he'll start the season there and when our camp restarts the Leafs will bring him back over. Should give him a head start conditioning and timing wise over other guys.
     
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    He played like dozen good games when we needed him to. If he always played like that he would be much higher ranked I would agree with you.
     
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    Hopefully he shows that last season was his standard level of play and not an aberration.
     
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    They might lose him to Seattle.
     
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    Expansion draft is after next season. Lots of time.
     
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    Push him threw on a one year prove it contract.
     
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    If it came down to that I think hed be traded or thats make a side deal with the Kraken
     
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    This. At some point we'd have to do a deal to relieve the glut and fill the voids. Signing free-agents is going to be quite difficult in the next few years, why not utilize the few bullets we do have in the chamber in order to improve?

    Dermott is aieeet. I just don't see him as non-expendable as some seem to round these parts. And if he proves to be clearly better than the competition - which he hasn't thus far - trade the other spare parts.
     
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    I'm not sure Dermott is going anywhere.
     

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