Richard88
John 3:16
- Jun 29, 2019
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As I was saying, you haven’t watched him play and are basing this on some charts.
not sure how I feel about this as I was a pretty big fan of Nasty Naz. Team is soft as butter now.
EJ probably has more value considering Barrie is basically a 1 year rental.sucks losing Kadri but Barrie is amazing get for the leafs, LOL @ Col fans before saying if Kadri gets traded it would be for Erik Jonhson , now way it would be for Barrie. And plus Kerfoot
It really does suck losing Kadri , good luck to Col & kadri
And here we go. Always negative with the leafs. They can never do right with youMy initial reactions are Leafs got smaller again. I have no problem with small players, as long as you have a diverse line up with size. You can't be icing 5'9 and 5'10 guys and expect to beat St Louis type teams in the playoffs. Seems to me that Dubas has not learned this. Kadri had to go. I think a fresh start will be good for him. Avs got him for 3 years at a Lou discount of 4.5. Leafs only got one year in Barrie. The Leafs are all in on one and done contract D men this year. Muzzin and Ceci. So I would have preferred more term and more size if I were a Leafs fan. Dubas getting adding small guys in trades and the draft has got to make you wonder if he even watched the playoffs this year? Kadri has his warts, but the Leafs lost their last grit guy, abeit a dumb player at times.
Kerfoot isn't quite as bad as we make him seem, but if you're looking to have some real fun take a shot every time he shoots a puck right into a goalies chest.
That's kind of the only downside to the deal for Toronto.Kadri was our best expendable trade chip and considering Barrie has 1 year left before getting a huge contract, it's disappointing not getting a long term affordable option at RD.
Well when it comes to the leafs, I don’t need others opinions because I live in Toronto and watch just about every game they play. I was only hoping and praying all day that my team wouldn’t sign Gardiner, at any price and term really because I’ve concluded that he doesn’t help NHL teams win.If you did that, Jake Gardiner would be considered one of the worst defensemen in the NHL the way the Leafs fan base speaks of him.
Some players don't pass the eye test because they do some things very visible that aren't good, but no one really watches all of the smaller things they do right.
This is typically why analytics is more valuable than just a simple eye test.
Gonna have to disagree cuz I would love a Josh Anderson on the leafs. Fav non leaf player. He would be perfect with austonThey don’t need grit. They were grittier than the Bruins and still lost in 7.
What they need is skill and someone who can skate the puck out instead of panicking every time and icing it like Zaitsev and Hainsey. We got that in Barrie.
The quicker we can get the puck to those forwards the better our offense and defense will be.
He's also an expert in scoring the 5th goal in a 5-1 game.Yeah and I think that's fine. From what I've read he seems to pass first, shoot as last resort. He'll pair well with Kapanen and / or Johnsson who like to shoot.
Barrie was about as consistent as they get, there was zero concern about his mental game throughout his years with Colorado. You're severely underrating Barrie, he's improved his defense each year and he's significantly better than Gardiner at every facet of the game. Toronto looks really, really strong on paper this year, I have no issue calling that a top 10 defense in the league for the upcoming year.
Rielly - Barrie
Muzzin - Dermott
Marincin - Ceci
Not a chance they feel the need to move Nylander. Dermott is a player on the back end as well. Leafs will be fine. Muzzin will be 31 looking for a 5 year deal. Dermott can take his place. You can then resign one of Berrie or Ceci or potentially both. And you have the young guys like I mentioned liljegren, Sandin who can make the team as well.Can’t keep giving legit assets away though. They just gave up assets for Muzzin, Ceci and a first for cap space. They let them walk, they’re in big trouble. Now, while I don’t think Ceci is much of anything, some team will still think they can fix him and give something in return if it gets to that. Muzzin though?? They can’t afford to not resign him. It’d be roller hockey out there.
As good as we think Sandin might be, he’s still unproven and we can’t just put him and TL out there and hope for the best. If they haven’t evolved more by the end of next year, then what??
They’ve got to move Nylander at some point here. Half the cap on 4 forwards forces you to be creative but if he keeps giving assets away, we’ll be right back to the Sundin days.
Well when it comes to the leafs, I don’t need others opinions because I live in Toronto and watch just about every game they play. I was only hoping and praying all day that my team wouldn’t sign Gardiner, at any price and term really because I’ve concluded that he doesn’t help NHL teams win.
As I was saying, you haven’t watched him play and are basing this on some charts.
You don't have to read my replies if you want homer analysis, But Someone asked for my opinion, and I gave it. Leafs gave up their grittiest player on the team and got back a pair of 5'9 and 5'10 guys to add to an already soft line up. It pays to notice how teams win the Cup. Washington and St Louis. Big, heavy teams that wear down teams. Leafs got smaller today.And here we go. Always negative with the leafs. They can never do right with you
TSN already moving on, their headline referred to Kadri as an "agitator".
Pretty sure TSN saw him as more than that, over the past decade. Funny how quickly things change, eh?
Colorado didn't really have anyone else to play the prime offensive opportunities, so he got them all. He's not really going to get that in Toronto though, so don't be totally surprised if his production takes a bit of a hit.He'll probably get a bit more than Gardiner but I think youd be hard pressed to find a contract comparison that suggests hes getting 8
He's also an expert in scoring the 5th goal in a 5-1 game.
sucks losing Kadri but Barrie is amazing get for the leafs, LOL @ Col fans before saying if Kadri gets traded it would be for Erik Jonhson , now way it would be for Barrie. And plus Kerfoot
It really does suck losing Kadri , good luck to Col & kadri
I've seen some Avs fan complaining about the value but what needs to be kept in mind is that Barrie is going to be asking for minimum $8M next year while Kadri is on a steal at $4.5M for the next 3. That's significant.