Top UFA Targets for the Habs
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Luigi Habs
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Richiebottles
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Doubt it.
I think MB should sign a UFA winger or trade for one.
Only way he gets a shot is if someone gets injured.
Team_Spirit
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ECWHSWI
TOUGHEN UP.
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replacing Gionta on the 3rd, next to Bourque and Eller, I'd be fine with it.
Luigi Habs
Captain Saku
Redux91
I do Three bullets.
Really more like 1 considering they will give a rookie or sophomore gionta's 3rd line spot (hopefully)
Cue the list of available free agent RW's tho?
also we cant sign any dmen in free agency until there is a trade for one of the ones we DO currently have, look for bergevin to focus HEAVILY on a scoring right winger this july 1st
cant wait
Richiebottles
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Redux91
I do Three bullets.
Id LOVE to keep Vanek
but theres just no way you can pay this guy 7 + million when he's 38 I mean man its just too bad..
Kovy accepted a 4 year deal with the habs at 31... why cant vanek do the same!
...yes, but thanks for the fascinating insight anyways...
It's been explained to you already
Being a puck mover is nothing but an extra skill. You saying we don't need puck movers is like saying we don't need guys that can shoot well, or pass well, or skate well. You never have enough of guys that have that skill. Just like you never have enough good shooters, passers or skaters.
MD thaivuN
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Because we live in an era where even mediocre players get big contracts. So, we can't expect good ones to get small contracts lol
So he can break more hearts with disinterested play when the chips are down? pass
It's been explained to you already
Being a puck mover is nothing but an extra skill. You saying we don't need puck movers is like saying we don't need guys that can shoot well, or pass well, or skate well. You never have enough of guys that have that skill. Just like you never have enough good shooters, passers or skaters.
...and as I've explained to you, multiple times, your "explanation" is crap...garbage...dung...look at the last, oh Hell, let's say 5 Stanley Cup winners...look at their D...LA - geez, they have a good balance of Puck-Movers and stay-at-home defensive guys...Chicago - wow, they're pretty much the same; good mix of movers like Keith & Nik Hjall and steadfast guys like Seabrook & Oduya...Boston - wow, same thing...Pittsburg - wow, they had the same...Detroit - well, powder my cheeks and call me Rosey, they were also the same...funny how that is, eh??...
...and as I've explained to you, multiple times, your "explanation" is crap...garbage...dung...look at the last, oh Hell, let's say 5 Stanley Cup winners...look at their D...LA - geez, they have a good balance of Puck-Movers and stay-at-home defensive guys...Chicago - wow, they're pretty much the same; good mix of movers like Keith & Nik Hjall and steadfast guys like Seabrook & Oduya...Boston - wow, same thing...Pittsburg - wow, they had the same...Detroit - well, powder my cheeks and call me Rosey, they were also the same...funny how that is, eh??...
How many Markov's do you think you can afford to have on a team?? You think Chicago would say no to a team full of Keiths? And Seabrook is good at distributing the puck. You're talking about a guy that puts up 40pts, he is not a stay at home Dman. But no team can actually do this, otherwise more than half their cap would be spent on 6 Dmen.
You didn't explain anything. You stated an opinion but you didn't explain it at all. Why do teams need this ''balance''?? Why would Gorges with good puck moving skills be worse than the player he is now, and why would it hurt us?
Your opinion is nothing but a good old myth. The same one as enforcers actually holding an impact on games. They are just old beliefs. Key word here is old.
If you had a bunch of Markov's on your team, you'd have an all-star D squad, and yet you say that this wouldn't be good. Makes zero sense.
MD thaivuN
Anime Music Hipster
...and as I've explained to you, multiple times, your "explanation" is crap...garbage...dung...look at the last, oh Hell, let's say 5 Stanley Cup winners...look at their D...LA - geez, they have a good balance of Puck-Movers and stay-at-home defensive guys...Chicago - wow, they're pretty much the same; good mix of movers like Keith & Nik Hjall and steadfast guys like Seabrook & Oduya...Boston - wow, same thing...Pittsburg - wow, they had the same...Detroit - well, powder my cheeks and call me Rosey, they were also the same...funny how that is, eh??...
You're pretty much missing the point here. The best type of D squad is one that has a quantity of well-rounded Defensemen that can defend well enough AND move the puck. You look LA Kings' top 6 in the playoff, they had 4 D that could do that and only had 2 PURE stay-at-home guys. It's the era of the Two-Way defenseman now. it's no longer about having One Offensive D and One Defensive D on a pair.
ECWHSWI
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a D corp filled with Markov would cost you over 40 Mil, and they'd had no one decent to give the puck upfront, THAT makes zero sense...
besides, he's right, your definition of puck mover is wrong, a puck mover is NOT someone who can make 3ft passes to get out of the zone, otherwize more than half the D in this league would be considered puck movers, hell! we could get just about any D and label him a puck mover, you know...
ECWHSWI
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we have ONE, Gorges, others such as PK, Beaulieu, Markov are all known for their offense, Emelin is OK in transition (not great, but OK), Weaver was OK too for a bottom pairing D...
so, what's the problem with having ONE pure shutdown D ?
Precisely, and that has nothing to do with having some kind of magic balance.
We were talking about guys like Ehrhoff and Niskanen, which is when he said we don't need anymore puck movers. Those guys bring a similar game to Markov's although not as good.
ECWHSWI
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well, it it will bring you some balance, the crease clearing, shot blocking, etc D without much offense to their game usually cost less.
Emelin iced the puck every time he was in his zone during the POs. Gorges isn't. Beaulieu played 17 games. We had Bouillon and Murray once we traded Diaz.
But to answer your question, there would be no problem with having one pure shutdown D. Just like there would be no problem if we didn't have any either and had 6 good PMDs.
Right, and that's because you need cap space, you don't do it because you absolutely need to have this stay at home D. Good puck movers can also block shots and clear the crease, as well as win board battles, win races, etc..
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