Player Discussion Tomas Tatar (Part Two-na)

[BaseballCoach]

not on the bottom 6, that would have been a starter with CJ...

Yes or no? Did you want Galchenyuk at Center?

 

[alko]

Clearly Rental player. Trade him and sign him again in summer.

 

[Roadhouse]

Clearly Rental player. Trade him and sign him again in summer.

Cool. I want some of that time machine you're having. Tasty stuff.

Just like the movie 'Click'. One year gone, poof.

 

[MasterDecoy]

Big Tuna Masta hes been great nice hands, may take costly penalties from time to time but overall hes def a top liner. Pretty good for a throw-in!!!

guy was a cap dump when we got him

 

[Archijerej]

guy was a cap dump when we got him

Was he, really? Or was it just a narrative in order not to give Bergevin any credit for the trade?

 

[MasterDecoy]

Was he, really? Or was it just a narrative in order not to give Bergevin any credit for the trade?

this was an HF wide narrative

to be fair, he was quite bad in vegas

 

[MTL-rules]

This guy is not talked enough. 49pts in 54 games... Domi had one of the best offensive season of the last 25 years last year... well, Tatar is right on his tail this year. I don't even know how we could consider trading him righ now... not that I didn't, but it should be for a king's ransom which no team is ready to give righ now.

 

[Nedved]

Trade him. A 1st round pick and a prospect. Would look good on a defensive team, where he can just play. Would really help some teams trying to make a run into the playoffs.

 

[MTL-rules]

Trade him. A 1st round pick and a prospect. Would look good on a defensive team, where he can just play. Would really help some teams trying to make a run into the playoffs.

Depending on the team and the prospect, this isn't a "king's ransom" therefor I prefer keeping him.

 

[26Mats]

guy was a cap dump when we got him

And was traded for a 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd just a few months before that...

 

[donghabs98]

And was traded for a 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd just a few months before that...

That was before his contract extension and then being scratched/getting limited ice time in the playoffs. It was well documented Tatar wasnt a main piece and was seen more as a salary add on.

Here's just two links I found doing a quick search.
Tomas Tatar joins Canadiens after second trade in just over six months
Tomas Tatar has been the equivalent of found money for the Montreal Canadiens - TheHockeyNews

 

[Archijerej]

I don't even know how we could consider trading him righ now...

Asset management and strengthening our future core.

 

[26Mats]

That was before his contract extension and then being scratched/getting limited ice time in the playoffs. It was well documented Tatar wasnt a main piece and was seen more as a salary add on.

Here's just two links I found doing a quick search.
Tomas Tatar joins Canadiens after second trade in just over six months
Tomas Tatar has been the equivalent of found money for the Montreal Canadiens - TheHockeyNews

My point was more about how quickly GM's across the league turn on a player, particularly skilled wingers. Just because a player has one bad spell and the herd goes sour on the player's value, doesn't mean the player has all of a sudden lost it.

Perron put 67 points during the regular season, then had a mediocre playoff, and all of a sudden he's worth 4 million? Kovalchuk, Duclair, Derrick Brassard are other recent examples. We'll see if Galchenyuk is or isn't one of the next examples. He's worth a try given the price tag, imo.

 

[jaffy27]

That was before his contract extension and then being scratched/getting limited ice time in the playoffs. It was well documented Tatar wasnt a main piece and was seen more as a salary add on.

Here's just two links I found doing a quick search.
Tomas Tatar joins Canadiens after second trade in just over six months
Tomas Tatar has been the equivalent of found money for the Montreal Canadiens - TheHockeyNews

Seems Vegas mismanaged this player as he can clearly produce with the best of them.

can you imagine the Habs trading a 1st/2nd/3rd for him and then proceed to mismanage the player in the playoffs, then add him in a trade as a cap dump only to see him prosper and put up career numbers!!!.....oh, of course we would’ve added a prospect a la Suzuki in the deal......this place would’ve been on full meltdown.

No matter how we cut it, this was an outstanding deal for us and a very bad deal for Vegas when you consider they gave up 1st/2nd/2nd/3rd Suzuki and Tatar for Pacioretty

 

[MasterDecoy]

hard to crap on vegas considering the results they had that year. but tatar was clearly misused during his time there....

 

[Habs Halifax]

Trade Domi and one of (Hillis, McShane, Fonstad)
for
Nurse and a future 2nd or Lavoie

and Keep Tatar

 

[Habs Halifax]

Anybody see the list of impressive players Tatar was in with multiple 20+ goal seasons in a row in last nights game?

6 seasons in a row and his 7th season was 19 goals. Anybody have that list of other players?

 

[Hostile Offer]

I just don't get how he was such a poor fit with Vegas. Seems exactly the type of player who would thrive in their high tempo, hard working transition game. Good for us though, pretty crazy to think we got him as pretty much a cap dump with retention. Man's been a stud this year.

 

[Walrus26]

Anybody see the list of impressive players Tatar was in with multiple 20+ goal seasons in a row in last nights game?

6 seasons in a row and his 7th season was 19 goals. Anybody have that list of other players?

Yeah I saw that list on the screen and did a double-take. Can't believe how good his hands and skating are considering he must be made out of iron.

 

[alko]

Anybody see the list of impressive players Tatar was in with multiple 20+ goal seasons in a row in last nights game?

6 seasons in a row and his 7th season was 19 goals. Anybody have that list of other players?

No. Can you write some?

 

[sandviper]

Well, guess this should quiet any trade discussion for the next few days. He seemed fine during the game FWIW.

 

[Deluded Puck]

Well, guess this should quiet any trade discussion for the next few days. He seemed fine during the game FWIW.

Shame... he's increased his value plenty whilst with the CH.... we really should be selling/flipping him at the deadline.

 

[varano]

Well, guess this should quiet any trade discussion for the next few days. He seemed fine during the game FWIW.

I'm lost as to how only one person is reporting this. No photos no sign of Injury in game. Seems odd

 

[Scintillating10]

This guy is not talked enough. 49pts in 54 games... Domi had one of the best offensive season of the last 25 years last year... well, Tatar is right on his tail this year. I don't even know how we could consider trading him righ now... not that I didn't, but it should be for a king's ransom which no team is ready to give righ now.

So, you saying trade Tatar now before he falls off like Domi did?

 

[Subbanned]

So, you saying trade Tatar now before he falls off like Domi did?

I think capitalizing on his play this season, relative age and when we will be competitive again, and the haul he can get us (1st and a prospect) would be worth considering trading him for sure