Player Discussion Tomas Tatar (Part Two-na)

[ahmedou]

#Tatar-PressConference(20/08/18)

“We've to put this beyond us. We've our chances, but we couldn't find the net. I mean we've to do a little extra to make it happens. I feel once we get one it starts rolling. Just to be a little bit more hungry around the net. It's not over until it's over... We'll regroup and get ready for the next game.”

“We had a slow start... We got too many odd man rushes. It didn't happen to us before, we need to be aware of it. But after that we battle, it's a matter of one good shoot just to break in. Obviously, it's frustrating when you don't score in two games. We won't give up...”

“That's what happens when you're trying to create offense. It's normal... We're trying different combinations and trying different players in different spots. The series is going fast, you don't have much time to figure out the lines. So you just have to do whatever is available there. We're just trying to create a spark. I think we've done it, it's just a matter of finding the net. It's about getting one goal and then I think everybody will be calmer and just get rolling.”

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

From the regular season goat to a ghost... Unless he re-sign for someting low and play as a #2LW, he needs to go.

He was disappointing, outplayed by two kids...

 

[The Great Weal]

He was awful in the playoffs but you can't trade him solely because of it. If you were trading him to get picks and prospects, that should still be the plan. If you were going to keep him so KK/Suzuki have a good winger to play with, that should still be the plan.

 

[LaP]

We should have traded him at the deadline.

 

[Archijerej]

The thing with Tatar is that he produced like a mid-tier first liner the last two seasons. He’s also one of the few natural finishers on this team, something all seem to agree we lack. If we move him, we have to get that kind of contribution from somewhere.
Also, I don't think his overall play during the playoffs was as bad as people think it was.

 

[azcanuck]

The thing with Tatar is that he produced like a mid-tier first liner the last two seasons. He’s also one of the few natural finishers on this team, something all seem to agree we lack. If we move him, we have to get that kind of contribution from somewhere.
Also, I don't think his overall play during the playoffs was as bad as people think it was.

That's the conundrum. He offers the team offense during the regular season to help us make the playoffs where his style of play doesnt translate. He's so soft.
But remember in the third period Montreal had ONE good chance on goal and it was Tatar. He hit the knob of the Philly goalie. That's a pure fluke save.
I can see Tatar playing out next season and him getting traded at the deadline.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

The thing with Tatar is that he produced like a mid-tier first liner the last two seasons. He’s also one of the few natural finishers on this team, something all seem to agree we lack. If we move him, we have to get that kind of contribution from somewhere.
Also, I don't think his overall play during the playoffs was as bad as people think it was.

really good post. And I was one of his critics in the playoffs especially before the 2 goal game.

I didn't feel like it was from a lack of effort. He did a great job getting that shot off that hit the cross bar where he could've been a hero. I saw him trying but his size and lack of speed just kind of hurts him in a playoff situation. He hit a few posts. People are just so absolutist in their player assessments some times. I was kind of ticked when people were saying that Drouin was as ineffective as him earlier on as I thought that was garbage.

That being said, I still think long and hard trading him. If we can get a Pacioretty lite like package for him it might be best. But yeah he's our only trigger man. Armia did well on the Suzuki line but I feel like Tatar should've got some reps with that line late.

Plus he's gonna want a pretty signiicant raise I'd think. I think this one's a tough decision. One or two of these smaller wingers are gonna have to go imo.

 

[ahmedou]

#Bergevin-Conférencedepresse(20/08/22):Tatar

«On n'est pas là pour faire des cachettes non plus, Tuna a eu des series un peu plus difficile... Mais j'ai vu un joueur qui travaillait fort, qui a souvent la rondelle. Il voulait vraiment bien faire, il forçait des jeux. Il lui reste un an de contrat... Il est encore relativement jeune. Mais dans l'ensemble, j'attends qu'il revienne au calibre qu'il nous a donné les deux dernières saisons...»

 

[ForeverHabs97]

« Je suis pas mal certain que les conversations vont commencer prochainement. Je suis tombé en amour avec Montréal »
Kulak : le CH a atteint le prochain niveau

Keep him! He's a keeper at a good price.

 

[ahmedou]

Tomas Tatar addresses the media via conference call to look back on the 2019-20 season on Tuesday (20/08/25).

“I've been very blessed and fortunate. I found a lot of friends outside of hockey here. I fell in love with the city... The fans are great. I found a soccer team (IMFC) I can cheer for here. The city, the team have been really good to me and I'm having a lot of fun. Management is doing a really good job pushing this team forward right now and I think that's what we did in the playoffs. The future looks promising and I know I'd really like to be a part of it.”

“It's just been a good balance. I had a fresh start after the Vegas trade. I just wanted to come here and enjoy hockey again and this is the perfect environment for it. This city and these fans love and are really passionate about hockey. That's what I like: people are very dedicated to hockey here. That just motivates me to try to be better every game and every day.”

“In the first series against Pittsburgh, we had a task in front of us: we were playing against the top line. We were really happy with our line, with what we did on the defensive side. Obviously, we would've liked to have been a little more productive, but that's what the playoffs are about. We advanced; we were really excited about it. And against Philly, I'm really proud of our team. We did a really good job. If the posts were a little thinner, maybe we'd be talking from Toronto and not from home. My overall impression, I was happy with what we did. Our line - Danault and Gally - we battled. I wish I would've scored some more goals, but there are a lot of things you can look at on the bright side. I'm just trying to take as many positives from there and bring it for next year...”

It's not an easy situation for a lot of teams in the NHL... The cap stays flat. There'll a lot of movement departure on the whole league because the cap will be so tight. I bet they'll have to make very hard decisions on who they wanna keep and how they gonna build the team and some new players around. It's unfortunate, it's not a great world right now. I'm sure a lot of rich teams they could keep their team longer because they were successful, but unfortunately it won't be possible for everyone. This is how business works, there's not a lot you can do, you've to accept the fate. There's some players that have to be moved.”

 

[FLHabs]

Biiig lmao at Tatar preparing his meal (you can hear him cutting up something) around the end of that "presser" haha! But yea, I know he loves it in Montreal but I just don't see him getting resigned unfortunately

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

I think we should trade him and I like him.

61 pts in 68 games. We're seeing more often than not, players get extra gears production wise in their later 20s/early 30s. Despite a lackluster playoffs you can't tell me teams wouldn't be willing to trade for a guy with those kind of stats.

Would love it if we moved Domi, Danault and Tatar. I think we can fill some holes there or stock up on some pretty high end assets.

 

[Pappazzz]

I think we should trade him and I like him.

61 pts in 68 games. We're seeing more often than not, players get extra gears production wise in their later 20s/early 30s. Despite a lackluster playoffs you can't tell me teams wouldn't be willing to trade for a guy with those kind of stats.

Would love it if we moved Domi, Danault and Tatar. I think we can fill some holes there or stock up on some pretty high end assets.

i think other GMs would worry he would revert into what he was in Vegas, which is a good possibilty

 

[The Great Weal]

i think other GMs would worry he would revert into what he was in Vegas, which is a good possibilty

The guy put up a 66 point pace in the past 2 seasons combined. His value didn't change because of 9 bad games.

 

[ahmedou]

Season recap (2019/2020): Tomas Tatar

The skinny: Tuna would go on to finish atop the Montreal points list with a personal-best 61 points, with his 39 assists also the most of his nine-year NHL career. That's even more impressive when you consider that it took him just 67 games to reach the 60-point mark, fourth-fewest to get there on the Canadiens in the past 20 seasons. He was also the ninth European-born player - and first Slovakian - to ever record a 60-point season for the Habs.

Notable numbers:
1)Became the first Canadiens player to score 20 goals in his first 2 seasons with the team since Gionta (2009-10 and 2010-11)
2)Led the team in February in points (15), assists (11) and differential (plus-5 - tied with Danault)

Playoff punditry:
Tatar's playoffs weren't quite as productive, with No. 90 managing a pair of goals - including one game-winner - in 10 contests... But Tatar was still a threat, finishing fifth on the team with 34 high-danger scoring chances. And also landing in the team's top-10 in Corsi (56.7%) and Fenwick (54.1%).

 

[mariolemieux66]

Should have traded him this year.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

At this point it's pretty useless trading him. He will be dealt at deadline or will be a goner at ufa.

The 2 wingers who will survive after next year will be Drouin and Gallagher at terrible terms sadly

 

[Habs Halifax]

I think Danault, Petry, Armia need to stay. Then Gallagher if he is willing to take something close to what Atkinson took ($6M +/-). If Gallagher starts at $8M and won't budge where he says he will explore UFA market if he don't get $8M, I'm keeping Tatar and trading Gallagher. Tatar can play both sides.

One of Gallagher and Tatar and then Byron off loaded (maybe send a pick for Seattle to take him). That frees up the cap space we would need.

 

[yianik]

I think Danault, Petry, Armia need to stay. Then Gallagher if he is willing to take something close to what Atkinson took ($6M +/-). If Gallagher starts at $8M and won't budge where he says he will explore UFA market if he don't get $8M, I'm keeping Tatar and trading Gallagher. Tatar can play both sides.

One of Gallagher and Tatar and then Byron off loaded (maybe send a pick for Seattle to take him). That frees up the cap space we would need.

Another good comparable for Gallagher is Chris Krieder, signed for $6.5M for 6 years. Which is a year too long.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Another good comparable for Gallagher is Chris Krieder, signed for $6.5M for 6 years. Which is a year too long.

My feeling is Gallagher will want to explore UFA market if we don't pay him. He was underpaid the entire 6 years of his current deal and I think he will look to cash in. This is a concern of mine in terms of salary cap space

 

[Wats]

Look at Byron's contract. Bergevin will repay Gallagher for the cheap contract. Tatar might get longterm too as MB, outside Radulov, gives people their contract.

 

[TesseractPrice]

Tatar remains the most talented winger in the team by a good margin. In his two years stint here, he leads the team's forwards in almost all stats: 1st in points, 2nd in goals, 2nd in PP points, 1st in puck possession (7.4% SAT%rel!), and 1st in P/60 (since Shaw left).

Tatar is in fact 3rd in the league in SAT%rel and 13th in P/60, 4th among left wingers behind Panarin, Marchand and Guentzel. On a sample of 150 games, this is enough to draw some conclusions and the guy is actually a top winger in the league at 5v5 in here. There's a lot of grass greener on the other side when it comes to Tuna.

If the return in good, of course we shouldn't be opposed to trading him, especially if he wants to get paid. I got the feeling though that Tuna, like Petry, will take a team friendly to stay there. If it's not too much, I'd sign him even though he should regress

I see a future for him on KK's wing. We need to surround our young centers with talented wingers so they don't turn into Plekanec-like puck hogs like he was after being paired with Moen.

 

[26Mats]

Tatar remains the most talented winger in the team by a good margin. In his two years stint here, he leads the team's forwards in almost all stats: 1st in points, 2nd in goals, 2nd in PP points, 1st in puck possession (7.4% SAT%rel!), and 1st in P/60 (since Shaw left).

Tatar is in fact 3rd in the league in SAT%rel and 13th in P/60, 4th among left wingers behind Panarin, Marchand and Guentzel. On a sample of 150 games, this is enough to draw some conclusions and the guy is actually a top winger in the league at 5v5 in here. There's a lot of grass greener on the other side when it comes to Tuna.

If the return in good, of course we shouldn't be opposed to trading him, especially if he wants to get paid. I got the feeling though that Tuna, like Petry, will take a team friendly to stay there. If it's not too much, I'd sign him even though he should regress

I see a future for him on KK's wing. We need to surround our young centers with talented wingers so they don't turn into Plekanec-like puck hogs like he was after being paired with Moen.

I still think Gallagher is the straw that stirs the 1st line.

But Tatar is up there with Gallagher. He had a tough playoff. But I would have liked to have seen him play with better offensive players. In the final game, we're down a goal, and he's playing with Danault and Lehkonen. arghh

 

[TesseractPrice]

But Tatar is up there with Gallagher.

By looking at possession and 5v5 stats, we can clearly see how Danault was carried by Gallagher and Tatar. It's not that common for Cs to be the worst of their line in almost all possession and /60 stats at 5v5

If we were a great team, upgrading Tatar could be a good idea since we'd want to go far in the playoffs, but it's not the case and we actually have to reach the playoffs first. I'd trade one of Danault/Domi before Tatar. They'd fetch more than him, would be more expensive to re-sign and his role is now harder to replace with our current prospect pool. If we draft a Jarvis on October 6, that may change but right now there's only Caufield with legitimate top wing talent in the pipeline

 

[26Mats]

By looking at possession and 5v5 stats, we can clearly see how Danault was carried by Gallagher and Tatar. It's not that common for Cs to be the worst of their line in almost all possession and /60 stats at 5v5

If we were a great team, upgrading Tatar could be a good idea since we'd want to go far in the playoffs, but it's not the case and we actually have to reach the playoffs first. I'd trade one of Danault/Domi before Tatar. They'd fetch more than him, would be more expensive to re-sign and his role is now harder to replace with our current prospect pool. If we draft a Jarvis on October 6, that may change but right now there's only Caufield with legitimate top wing talent in the pipeline

The problem with Tatar is he sees himself as a very high cap hit winger after the last two seasons. He's going to want to get paid. He's said so in interviews. I think he's hoping for 7M AAV. Even if he doesn't get that, he will wait to test the market to try. There's a high risk of losing him for nothing, like we did with Radulov, if we don't give in to his salary demands before the UFA market opens.