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Player Discussion Tomas Tatar (Part Two-na)
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Well its obvious Tatar is not a player who elevates his game in the playoffs.
Should he be extended or moved? I personally think he is not a guy you can build around
Should he be extended or moved? I personally think he is not a guy you can build around
The Great Weal
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He isn't someone you build around, but getting a 60 point player that wants to play here isn't exactly common in Montreal. He isn't old and would help younger players produce more.
He might get you to the playoffs but won't get you through the playoffs.
You don't win Cups with players like this
Sorinth
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We aren't winning cups regardless of whether we keep him or not so it's a moot point.
Should be traded this offseason at this point...
With MB electing to use our cap flexibility on depth roles instead of addressing key need areas, we're not well positioned to be a contender, which would be the only reason to keep him past the deadline...
But since we're likely to be at least competing for a playoff spot, trading him in-season won't likely be feasible.
Kudo Shinichi
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I dont think we will re-sign him with Caufield coming in next year (unless he's willing to take a discount), so there are 2 scenarios possible.
We keep him all season + playoffs, and he leaves as a ufa
or
We trade him at the tdl, and trade for another forward to replace him or have caufield (his season will prob be over before the start of the playoffs) take his spot
We keep him all season + playoffs, and he leaves as a ufa
or
We trade him at the tdl, and trade for another forward to replace him or have caufield (his season will prob be over before the start of the playoffs) take his spot
Roadhouse
Bring me back to 2006...
Contract year babaaaaaaaaay. Show them up Tuna, so someone else can show you the money. Perfectly ok with watching him put in one more good year and letting him go in the offseason.... or at the TDL if we suck.
25 and 25 for him this year, strictly because we're only talking reg season play -- and a big contract year for a middle six sniper. Watch out if Julien plays him on a line that has one of Toffoli or Andy on it, it means Tuna is getting tons of room to shoot.
25 and 25 for him this year, strictly because we're only talking reg season play -- and a big contract year for a middle six sniper. Watch out if Julien plays him on a line that has one of Toffoli or Andy on it, it means Tuna is getting tons of room to shoot.
I'm open to keeping him at his current cap hit (5.3) for 4 years, but we will need a cheaper 4th line and more ELC contracts at forward.
toffoli money, but he's 2 years older ..i wouldn't go more than 3 years and 4 mill - but he'll get more and bergevin can deal him to a desperate team
HabsWhiteKnightLOL
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I like Tatar. We need playoff players. Like Domi I don’t think he’ll be around after this season.
Adam Michaels
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I'd be willing to re-sign him at 5M for four years as this would also influence Danaut re-signing for the same amount (only 6 years).
Keeping a line of Tatar - Danault - Gallagher to get you into the playoffs (when considering the additions to the roster) will be as important as having playoff performers. IMO, Toffoli, Anderson and the progressing youngsters (Suzuki, Kotkaniemi and, even, playoff Drouin) can be the ones that help get you deep into the playoffs. Add on Caufield as a missing sniper and you could get a solidly balanced lineup that puts up more goals than in the past.
Drouin (20) - Suzuki (20) - Toffoli (25)
Tatar (25) - Danault (10) - Gallagher (30)
Caufield (25) (Kotkaniemi (15) - Anderson (25)
Lehkonen (10) - Poehling (10) - (Ylonen (10)
200 goals from our forward group and we,re talking conference finals at least.
Pierre Dagenais
pissening
Grate n Colorful Oz
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5 of them have done it before, some of them multiple times. We could have 6 guys prorated to 20 goals this season.
OldCraig71
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I am okay with Tatar, don't really love him or dislike him for that matter. He has been an unexpected bonus tossed into the Pacioretty deal but he is not a guy that moves the needle that much. I can't see him being in the long term plans of any sane GM.(notice what I did there?)
26Mats
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I think he could be a good secondary piece over the next 4 years, at least. But will he accept secondary piece money? It is the covid era right now. So we'll have to wait and see.
Kudo Shinichi
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We don't have the cap space to re-sign him, and we have Caufield who can replace him
26Mats
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It depends on how much Tatar wants/can get on the market in the covid era, and who else we are willing to clear.
As I see it, we still have 1 more open top 9 spot to really solidify the top 9. Armia and Lehkonen can start on the 4th line, and come into the top 9 when there are injuries. Byron needs to go. That leaves one top 9 spot. Caufield can take it. But if we lose Tatar, I'd like to replace him in the top 9 with someone other than Armia, Lehkonen, or Byron. Perhaps Poehling will have blossomed by October 2021 and be ready. But I'd rather see if we can squeeze Tatar in.
Who would you rather keep if you could fit one 1 under the cap: Tatar (31 years old) for the next 4 years, Armia (28 years old) for the next 7 years, or Lehkonen (26 years old) for the next 8 years?
