Confirmed Signing with Link: Tom Wilson Part II

[gorangers0525]

It’s so hilariously awful, you’d think it was a clerical error.

 

[Aceboogie]

Except in this case it's a younger player ostensibly on the ascending side of his career trajectory, whereas those 3 were not.

Your right, those 3 players are not the same as Wilson because those 3 players were all legitimate top 56 players.

Btw, most forward shit their statistical peak at age 24-25 and decline from there. So odds are, Wilson has actually peaked offensively, which is incredibly sad. Atleast those other players peaked at 55-60 points and declined from there

 

[Super Hans]

Who would have thought we'd ever have a part two of a thread on Tom Wilson, unless it was about a questionable hit? Unless we're talking about Brian MacClellan taking questionable hits. #420blazeit

 

[Aceboogie]

Yeah clearly he's good enough for the top line but not good enough to PP, can't be that he's more needed in a different more important role or any thing.

Seems he hit Tampas defense so hard this spring even their fans are a little concussed

But hes not good enough for the top line. Plenty of coaches play bad players higher than they should. Lucic played on the top line/2nd line for the past 2 seasons despite being a third line level player

 

[Aceboogie]

Bro. Do you even know who you're talking about? You're talking about Tom Wilson. The guy that HITS! He also scored 35 points while riding shotgun with Backstrom, Kuznetsov and Ovechkin! He hits other teams players too. He also was like the 6th or 7th most important guy on his team in the playoffs!

Did I mention that he hits?

Tom Wilsons biggest hit might be when he forces Maclellan to hit his head against his desk in a year when he realizes how dumb this contract is

 

[Revelation]

Ofcourse they would, GMs are dumb AF. That is why the likes of Lucic, Backes, Ladd etc all got big deals in 2015. But just because GMs make dumb, dumb moves doesn't justify the contract

Yeah like that big dumb GM who just won a cup with Wilson playing a ton of ES and SH minutes on the top line and PK and putting up 50 points in 20 games. If only we had John Chayka the basement dwelling corsi visionary

 

[Aceboogie]

Yeah like that big dumb GM who just won a cup with Wilson playing a ton of ES and SH minutes on the top line and PK and putting up 50 points in 20 games. If only we had John Chayka the basement dwelling corsi visionary

This is the trap every cup winning team falls into after they win a cup, they think every bad decision they made was actually good and excuse every every dumb thing they did (The Erat trae was actually good since we won the cup! Every bad move was actually good). Enjoy the cup, make some good memories, but the Capitals will never sniff another cup again, and it will be due to making horrible moves like this

 

[Revelation]

But hes not good enough for the top line. Plenty of coaches play bad players higher than they should. Lucic played on the top line/2nd line for the past 2 seasons despite being a third line level player

He is literally the most effective top line winger we've had since Mike Knuble. It's beyond cute how you're cherrypicking an integral cog of a 70+ playoff points top line who scored at a 60 point pace and gave Ovechkin and Kuznetsov more room and favorable offensive situations than they ever had

 

[tomwilsonone]

Without Tom the Caps would not have won the cup this year. Hes worth every penny.

 

[strongcomp05]

Without Tom the Caps would not have won the cup this year. Hes worth every penny.

lmaoooooooooooooooooooo

 

[Revelation]

This is the trap every cup winning team falls into after they win a cup, they think every bad decision they made was actually good and excuse every every dumb thing they did (The Erat trae was actually good since we won the cup! Every bad move was actually good). Enjoy the cup, make some good memories, but the Capitals will never sniff another cup again, and it will be due to making horrible moves like this

Right, the team that brought back every single member of the cup winning roster minus the 4c is in no position to sniff another cup.

Maybe if the players start sniffing whatever it is you seem to be.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Yeah like that big dumb GM who just won a cup with Wilson playing a ton of ES and SH minutes on the top line and PK and putting up 50 points in 20 games. If only we had John Chayka the basement dwelling corsi visionary

Cool.

Peter Chiarelli won a cup too, so that automatically means trading a 1st for Reinhart and dealing Hall for Larsson must have been good moves too.

Unless it's possible that GMs can make bad decisions. And if that's possible, then maybe signing Wilson to his contract is a mistake too.

Right?

 

[Aceboogie]

Right, the team that brought back every single member of the cup winning roster minus the 4c is in no position to sniff another cup.

Maybe if the players start sniffing whatever it is you seem to be.

Those players also made up the most under-performing, disappointing, failure ridden team in recent memory prior to this year. Ask the Rangers, Devils, Flyers, Canucks and Bruins fans how their team did after impressive runs to the cup

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Probably because he's scored a grand total of 35 goals in 5 seasons in the league? I'm no coach, but I would probably put guys who can score on the PP.

The Bruins had Jimmy Hayes on the PP in front of the net. hah

Wilson could take a beating in front screening the goalie, banging in rebounds on the 2nd unit, no?

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Why would a career sub 30 point player get PP time

Why would he play first line on a cup winning team?

 

[Revelation]

Cool.

Peter Chiarelli won a cup too, so that automatically means trading a 1st for Reinhart and dealing Hall for Larsson must have been good moves too.

Unless it's possible that GMs can make bad decisions. And if that's possible, then maybe signing Wilson to his contract is a mistake too.

Right?

Well ours has yet to make one other than trading for some deadline duds here and there. Even Orpik turned out to be enough of a major cup contributor that we brought him back after being in a position to move on. Wilson's contract is in line with what he brings to the team and ends by the time he's 30. It's about the best move we could make to ensure we have a couple more shots at the cup before the core players are over the hill

 

[God King Fudge]

The Bruins had Jimmy Hayes on the PP in front of the net. hah

Wilson could take a beating in front screening the goalie, banging in rebounds on the 2nd unit, no?

He could learn to fly and become superman. I'd lean more on the history of never being able to produce, even when paired with stars. Just me though.

There's a lot of overpaid guys in the league. TB has more than a few. Doesn't mean the fans don't love the player or that he isn't a good player. Just means he's overpaid. There's some kind of weird disconnect in this thread where people are linking overpaid with garbage player. I think a player like Wilson is very replaceable and worth somewhere between 3-4. He got more. Shout out to him. I like it when players can get their share or more, especially in hockey.

None of that changes the fact that he's overpaid right now. Cap keeps going up, or he finally decides to produce after 5 years in the league, it might be ok.

 

[Revelation]

The Bruins had Jimmy Hayes on the PP in front of the net. hah

Wilson could take a beating in front screening the goalie, banging in rebounds on the 2nd unit, no?

If we even remotely needed him to but we got 12 other PP capable players many of whom stay out for the whole 2 minutes.

It's much better for the team if all of his energy goes into pking and doing what he does at even strength

 

[Revelation]

He could learn to fly and become superman. I'd lean more on the history of never being able to produce, even when paired with stars. Just me though.

There's a lot of overpaid guys in the league. TB has more than a few. Doesn't mean the fans don't love the player or that he isn't a good player. Just means he's overpaid. There's some kind of weird disconnect in this thread where people are linking overpaid with garbage player. I think a player like Wilson is very replaceable and worth somewhere between 3-4. He got more. Shout out to him. I like it when players can get their share or more, especially in hockey.

None of that changes the fact that he's overpaid right now. Cap keeps going up, or he finally decides to produce after 5 years in the league, it might be ok.

Yeah 15 ES points in 20 playoff games including the ones against le epic Tampa defense is no production whatsoever

Tyler Johnson must be one of those players that can't learn to produce considering Wilson has 2 less ES points than him

 

[Revelation]

Those players also made up the most under-performing, disappointing, failure ridden team in recent memory prior to this year. Ask the Rangers, Devils, Flyers, Canucks and Bruins fans how their team did after impressive runs to the cup

So the Caps should blow up their roster and bring in a bunch of new players instead of going with the group that won 3 straight series being the underdog? That's the logical solution?

Yeah, maybe they won't win a cup this year, they'll just have to be like 30 other teams just like whatever loser franchise you cheer for.

 

[Saekk]

Still an hilariously bad deal and hilariously delusional Caps fans defending it.

 

[God King Fudge]

Yeah 15 ES points in 20 playoff games including the ones against le epic Tampa defense is no production whatsoever

Tyler Johnson must be one of those players that can't learn to produce considering Wilson has 2 less ES points than him

You may need to head outside and chill out lmao.

Johnson has been underwhelming since signing his deal. He'd be one I'd consider overpaid.

Tom Wilson is still overpaid. None of your little quips about the TB defense or who else might be overpaid changes that.

Sorry.

 

[crasherino]

I'm just wondering how the negotiations went. Are we really to believe that the Caps couldn't get this deal done for under $5m? Did Wilson really dig in at $5.1m and the Caps just said "Well....we need this guy no matter what. Guess we have to pony up."? You have to think that if they shaved $1m off a year he'd still happily take it.

But, they won the cup so they can pretty much do whatever they want and still smile about it.

 

[Revelation]

I'm just wondering how the negotiations went. Are we really to believe that the Caps couldn't get this deal done for under $5m? Did Wilson really dig in at $5.1m and the Caps just said "Well....we need this guy no matter what. Guess we have to pony up."? You have to think that if they shaved $1m off a year he'd still happily take it.

But, they won the cup so they can pretty much do whatever they want and still smile about it.

Wilson wanted a short term deal, they figured it wasn't worth risking having to pay him 6+ million or have him pummeling our players on a division rival's behalf. It also ends at 30 so we should be spared any real decline. This is probably the cheapest he was willing to sell his prime for considering he didn't get pp time which could have boosted his numbers into "oh shit premier power forward" category. He was in a position to cash in big after a 1 year deal. Imagine how much he'd get if he got PP time this upcoming year and pushed his total up to 50 points and had another dominating postseason run. Then he's signing at 25/26 and probably gets a contract til he's 33 or so which would mean a few probably past his prime years

There really wasn't a better option if they wanted to remain competitive for the next few years

 

[Revelation]

You may need to head outside and chill out lmao.

Johnson has been underwhelming since signing his deal. He'd be one I'd consider overpaid.

Tom Wilson is still overpaid. None of your little quips about the TB defense or who else might be overpaid changes that.

Sorry.

All he needs to do is keep playing the way he was in 2018 and he's worth every penny