Confirmed with Link: Toews out indefinitely with illness

[RememberTheRoar]

It was Barry Rozner, but yeah I read that article and it was kind of sobering.
I'm expecting Toews's status to be completely up in the are until mid-August at the earliest.

I don't have a Herald subscription, can you give a summary of what he said?

Is he just taking a pessimistic angle, or does he seem to know something?

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

I don't have a Herald subscription, can you give a summary of what he said?

Is he just taking a pessimistic angle, or does he seem to know something?

Probably taking a pessimistic angle. It was mostly a nothing article.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Probably taking a pessimistic angle. It was mostly a nothing article.

Wow, I definitely didn't take the same thing from this article that Zawaski did. It doesn't seem like a grim outlook on Toews at all, it seems more about calling out guys who play soft and like shit, and uses Toews as an example of the right way to play.

There's no greater example than Jonathan Toews, who is at top of mind these days as we hope for the best.
The captain played every shift as if it mattered, because all shifts matter. He did not cheat the backcheck, the forecheck or the empty net. He played only to win and set the example for all to follow.
When you saw him return to the bench after a shift, or stand and face reporters after game, it was clear that he was spent, that he had given all he had, with only one goal in mind.
There is so much respect for the man that no one wore a "C" on the Blackhawks' sweater this year. See, leadership isn't a letter stitched on cloth, points on a stat sheet or title given by management.
You know it when you see it -- and you know it when you don't.
There have been others over the last decade of Hawks hockey who fit that bill, the likes of Marian Hossa, Andrew Ladd, Andrew Shaw, Brent Seabrook, Niklas Hjalmarsson and Duncan Keith are just a few that come immediately to mind.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Wow, I definitely didn't take the same thing from this article that Zawaski did. It doesn't seem like a grim outlook on Toews at all, it seems more about calling out guys who play soft and like shit, and uses Toews as an example of the right way to play.

Yes, but he talked about Toews in the past tense.

 

[Pez68]

People should prepares themselves for Toews never playing again. And be pleasantly surprised if he does.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Yes, but he talked about Toews in the past tense.

Ohh, I see now. I guess that is a bit odd.

But he also kind of talks about Keith in the past tense. I think he's just using past tense to talk about how these guys played during the Cup runs, not to say Toews is done playing.

I guess it can be read into it either way though.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

People should prepares themselves for Toews never playing again. And be pleasantly surprised if he does.

 

[deytookerjaabs]

Uncharted waters.... huh.

 

[Brightwing]

Uncharted waters.... huh.

Because I'm an idiot and can't help speculating, uncharted waters would line up with post-COVID.

 

[jaysoneil]

Uncharted waters.... huh.

He discovered some miracle diet that would put his play scores above McDavid. Toews being an intellectual, took the year off because his new super-human-like power would undoubtedly raise eyebrows and force the league to suspend him and the Hawks indefinitely for using alien-like technology against normal peasant humans.

The epitome of a team player.

/s

 

[hawksrule]

Well is a relative term, and if he was doing that well you'd think his status would be less ambiguous. Reading between the lines it doesn't sound particularly positive.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Well is a relative term, and if he was doing that well you'd think his status would be less ambiguous. Reading between the lines it doesn't sound particularly positive.

The Bowman response is not positive at all. You'd think there'd be some momentum building after that Dreger reporter a few weeks ago, but this seems like the opposite.

 

[Blackhawks]

People should prepares themselves for Toews never playing again. And be pleasantly surprised if he does.

We have survived through the tragedy of having Stan as a GM and approaching a decade of failure, I am sure that has prepared everyone for Toews not coming back

 

[CallMeShaft]

We have survived through the tragedy of having Stan as a GM and approaching a decade of failure, I am sure that has prepared everyone for Toews not coming back

What the f*** does Stan being GM have to do with Toews?

Stop trying to shoe-horn your hatred of Stanley into every damn post. It's a tired gimmick, and I don't even like Bowman.

 

[hawksrule]

The Bowman response is not positive at all. You'd think there'd be some momentum building after that Dreger reporter a few weeks ago, but this seems like the opposite.

The way Bowman's quote reads it sounds like Toews is an old acquaintance he used to know and randomly bumped into for a few minutes on the street. The Blackhawks lack of involvement in whatever's going on is another layer of weirdness to the whole thing.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

The way Bowman's quote reads it sounds like Toews is an old acquaintance he used to know and randomly bumped into for a few minutes on the street. The Blackhawks lack of involvement in whatever's going on is another layer of weirdness to the whole thing.

Honestly, I think Pez is right here. We need to be prepared to never see him suit up again, but be thrilled and surprised if it does eventually happen.

 

[DesperateBeliever]

Honestly, I think Pez is right here. We need to be prepared to never see him suit up again, but be thrilled and surprised if it does eventually happen.

This seems like the basis of the Hawks communication about this. They don't want people to be too hopeful and create expectations, but they also don't want to / can't be too negative.

 

[Marotte Marauder]

The way Bowman's quote reads it sounds like Toews is an old acquaintance he used to know and randomly bumped into for a few minutes on the street. The Blackhawks lack of involvement in whatever's going on is another layer of weirdness to the whole thing.

Agreed and Stan's comments sound anything but positive

 

[Muffinalt]

Honestly, I think Pez is right here. We need to be prepared to never see him suit up again, but be thrilled and surprised if it does eventually happen.

Well at this point everything is equal speculation. We are arguing about interpretations.

Whatever happens I'm just not ready to see my favorite player leave yet so I'm not entertaining that thought, what's the point.

But... Should Toews not come back, I think we need to immediately turn to truly bottoming out in order to get star prospects. Nothing to hold back for if he's not here as another legitimate impact player.

 

[Malagahawks]

Well at this point everything is equal speculation. We are arguing about interpretations.

Whatever happens I'm just not ready to see my favorite player leave yet so I'm not entertaining that thought, what's the point.

But... Should Toews not come back, I think we need to immediately turn to truly bottoming out in order to get star prospects. Nothing to hold back for if he's not here as another legitimate impact player.

Way too early to looks at 22/23 but if what some suggest we should do in 21/22 (Stand pat on big fish signings) then I would really love to see Stan go all-in in 22/23 to see if he can somehow sign Barkov and Campbell for the 1A goal tender. That would be a fantastic off season and by then the CAP`should go up a little.

 

[Muffinalt]

Way too early to looks at 22/23 but if what some suggest we should do in 21/22 (Stand pat on big fish signings) then I would really love to see Stan go all-in in 22/23 to see if he can somehow sign Barkov and Campbell for the 1A goal tender. That would be a fantastic off season and by then the CAP`should go up a little.

Going the FA route is kind of the same logic right, the goal is to acquire legitimate impact players, starpower. Not Reichels but Bedards, not Suters but Barkovs.

Although to me if Toews is back, then thats two core star players who's age curve suits better the trade/FA route. But if he isn't, than the draft avenue (which is much less asset demanding and lasts longer) lines up better with what we have on roster.

Anyway, let's just get the captain coming back full force and worry about the rest later.

 

[Sarava]

The Toews situation does feel a bit weird. I was chatting with my sister about him last night. I can't recall any star player in professional sports ever missing an entire season and not speaking to the media or anything. It's like some weird mystery.

But hey, Johnny was great for us and I really don't care if he ever plays again. I just hope he is ok and takes good care of himself.

 

[Brightwing]

Johnston said people close to Toews expect him to be back next season. Senators grinding away at extensions for Zub, Mete - Sportsnet.ca

 

[Muffinalt]

Johnston said people close to Toews expect him to be back next season. Senators grinding away at extensions for Zub, Mete - Sportsnet.ca

Sweet. There is your positive news!

 

[GaryU]

Still don't know anymore than before. Hope to see Jonny back.