Todd Bertuzzi-Steve Moore incident, 20 years later

[Mrfenn92]

Bertuzzi with a piece of crap move even 20 years later

 

[pahlsson]

unfortunate series of incidents where the classiest person got the worst outcome

 

[Scrantonicity 2]

I wouldn't be shocked if this was a lifetime ban for Bertuzzi in today's world with how far-reaching media is. It would blow up and be a huge story across sports like it was when it happened (as I understand it). Yes, Bertuzzi's career continued well into the emergence of massive social media platforms but memories were already fading and emotions softening by then. Besides, there was vocal pushback for criminal charges and a permanent expulsion even back then. If it happened fresh today the NHL might not be able to weather the storm of public outcry.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Cooke was dirty. But he was soft. No one is scared of fighting that clown . Face it your boy Moore took the bitch route out by fighting Cooke.

That's on Vancouver for having Cooke fight him then.

It's not Moore's fault that Bertuzzi broke his neck with a suckerpunch. Moore had already fought. The two teams had already played a game since the Naslund hit. The Canucks deciding they want more revenge in a blowout game is entirely on them.

I always thought it was a f***ing dumb decision to play Moore in the third period of an 8-2 blowout.

If you have to keep a player off the ice to prevent the opponent from doing him grievous bodily harm, that's an NHL problem. That's not an Avs problem.

 

[luiginb]

I feel like less and less people watch the hit that lead to the main event.

Naslund put himself in a vulnerable position (wtf was he doing skating on one knee?) and the rules about headshots were different back then.

 

[BrickNHL]

I am an Aves fan who lives in Vancouver

This incident is one of the many reasons I can't stand the Canucks or their fan base

 

[EdJovanovski]

I am an Aves fan who lives in Vancouver

This incident is one of the many reasons I can't stand the Canucks or their fan base

Yup between this incident and all the Canucks fans I grew up around defending it, and then the riots; are like half of the reason why I’m not a Canuck fan despite being from Vancouver.

 

[ghostingtaro]

why doesnt anyone talk about the time when chara almost killed max pacioretty

 

[The Panther]

McSorely was found guilty but he used the stick.

I always found the 2000 McSorley-on-Brashear incident overblown by fans/media. On the hockey-scale of "bad" for that era, it was maybe a 7 / 10. (There's also the fact that Brashear had been goading McSorley into fighting through that whole game, and when McSorley finally said 'okay', Brashear ran away. Hence the skull tap. Brashear had been literally "asking for it.") In the late 1980s and through the 1990s, I saw much worse incidents than that get little or no media attention. McSorley's worst incident by far was the 1988 playoffs in which (while with Edmonton) he speared 40-goal scorer Mike Bullard just as Bullard jumped onto the ice (they'd had no previous contact). Bullard was out of the series and basically his prime was over. I think there was a penalty called (?), but it was basically forgotten the next day.

The fact that Bertuzzi ever played a shift after this assault in the NHL is a stain on the game, and on the teams he was on.

Yes, but per the standards of the time (say, late-80s to early 00s' NHL), it wasn't that unusual. Had Moore not suffered a serious neck injury, I suspect that incident likely would have been passed over and forgotten fairly quickly, too. (I mean, there were Canucks' games in the 90s where Gino Odjick drove players' heads into the ice from behind, but we don't remember it because nobody had a career-ending neck injury.)

To its credit, the NHL did clean all this stuff up, but it was damn slow about it....

The repercussions from this and the subsequent lawsuit basically destroyed Marc Crawford's career as a NHL HC. This incident and his actions will follow him to the grave. Bertuzzi was just a tool in Crawford's tool box.

Well, he had one more year with Van (post-Lock Out), then 2 years with LA, and 2 years with Dallas. Kept trying to cling to Dan Cloutier, for reasons known only to Crawford.

Bertuzzi was also never the same player after this.

As others have said, Bertuzzi was already in a major (basically season-long) slump before this incident occurred.

 

[kingsholygrail]

I actually don't think he would have been allowed back at all.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

why doesnt anyone talk about the time when chara almost killed max pacioretty

Probably because nobody is celebrating that

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

I was living in Vancouver at the time as a kid. I remember the whole class talking about it before and after because Moore cheap shotted Naslund.

But... the moral of this whole story is two wrongs don't make a right.

The sad thing is this completely ruined Bertuzzi's legacy with the Cancuks. If it weren't for this incident who knows if the Luongo trade happens and Bertuzzi ends up in the Ring on Honour. He and Naslund were the Canucks that were adored the most.

 

[The Panther]

I was living in Vancouver at the time as a kid. I remember the whole class talking about it before and after because Moore cheap shotted Naslund.

I was a teaching assistant at UBC at the time. I remember one freshman writing an English essay about Hamlet, and comparing it to the revenge of Bertuzzi on Moore. ; )

 

[Kamina]

82 games.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Bertuzzi deserves all that was thrown at him. Moore should've answered the bell

 

[Avs9296]

I see Canucks fans are still making excuses for that neanderthal Bertuzzi hahahaha.

 

[Leafs87]

Really depends on which teams play did it

 

[EpochLink]

I see Canucks fans are still making excuses for that neanderthal Bertuzzi hahahaha.

f*** that, guy was and still is a piss off.
don’t include me in that group, guys a f***ing ego mother f***er.

 

[Regal]

Probably because nobody is celebrating that

Who is celebrating this?

why doesnt anyone talk about the time when chara almost killed max pacioretty

Completely different incidents. Chara probably shouldn’t have made the hit but it was a hockey play that went awry. Patches also came back ok. Bertuzzi’s play was a blatant premeditated sucker punch with history behind it. And Moore never played again.

 

[LemonSauceD]

I see Canucks fans are still making excuses for that neanderthal Bertuzzi hahahaha.

Where’s the excuse? Literally every Canuck fans hated the end result. A lot of bullshit being said here. No f***ing Canuck fan was cheering.

 

[Regal]

I wouldn't be shocked if this was a lifetime ban for Bertuzzi in today's world with how far-reaching media is. It would blow up and be a huge story across sports like it was when it happened (as I understand it). Yes, Bertuzzi's career continued well into the emergence of massive social media platforms but memories were already fading and emotions softening by then. Besides, there was vocal pushback for criminal charges and a permanent expulsion even back then. If it happened fresh today the NHL might not be able to weather the storm of public outcry.

Yea, I don’t get the comments that it’d be less today. There was still a lot more that was let go in that era, and social media is far more up in arms these days. Bertuzzi also had the lockout kind of take attention away from him when he returned. I don’t know how it’d play out today for sure but I highly doubt he’d miss fewer games

 

[avalanche_country]

I was recording this game on VHS, still have it. F that guy and the Canucks org. I loved 2011 Final.

 

[LemonSauceD]

I am an Aves fan who lives in Vancouver

This incident is one of the many reasons I can't stand the Canucks or their fan base

Lmfao

I wonder how many Avs fans came to defense of of Lemieux, Deadmarsh, Odgers, Foote, and the other goons that plagued the team in the late 90’s early 2000’s?

Bertuzzi incident being a reason why you “hate the fanbase” is the literally the dumbest fakest shit I’ve ever heard. I guarantee am positively certain 99% of the fanbase didn’t like it then or now.

 

[BrickNHL]

Lmfao

I wonder how many Avs fans came to defense of of Lemieux, Deadmarsh, Odgers, Foote, and the other goons that plagued the team in the late 90’s early 2000’s?

Bertuzzi incident being a reason why you “hate the fanbase” is the literally the dumbest fakest shit I’ve ever heard.

What the f*** are you talking about?

It's one of the many reasons I hate all of you mofos. You really can't understand why someone would hate the Vancouver fanbase?

 

[M2Beezy]

Heard about this for years but thats the first time I ever watched it. Wow, dont see that in the game anymore lol, Rick Tocchet was the coach for the Aves hahahaha