Time to start questioning Colorado?

Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by Pavel Buchnevich, Jun 10, 2021.

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    I haven't seen anyone mention it, which is pretty surprising, but they were without Erik Johnson, who in past years was the team's best shutdown D. He's been banged up for months and it's the playoffs where they really missed him. They needed a big, competent, stabilizing veteran presence there to shelter someone like Girard (who is his normal partner). Suddenly a guy like Nemeth who was terrible all series isn't playing then. And yeah, the second line centre thing is a big problem.
     
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    No, only 1 team wins the Stanley Cup each year. They have a heck of a team, but lost to a more mature hockey club that got the bounces and executed a bit better the last few games.
     
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    Did you? Or have you just been stewing over the blues sweep for two weeks?

    We got beat. Vegas is fully deserving, and I’m not saying otherwise. But after the series evened you at 2-2, it was good hockey on both sides. It’s rare that you outshoot you opponent by an average of 7.5 shots and are clearly the worse team. But some days you just lose those.
     
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    I completely agree with moving on from Kadri. I doubt Sakic does it though.
     
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    Bro, you guys got dominated by Vegas. Lost 4 straight including 6-3 tonight. Just admit it.
     
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    San Jose Sharks of this generation.
     
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    You're much worst if you're a team like the Oilers.

    You get swept in the first round by a team that gets swept in the second, by a team that will get swept in the 3rd by a team who will get swept in the final.

    Hockey gods are cruel.
     
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    You don't blow up a team like the Avs. You tinker with the roster and hope to get lucky
     
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    For me there are only two real concerns that I have.

    First is Girard. He didn't play well, especially in the final couple of games...I'm willing to give him more time, he's still a guy that just turned 23. Plus he's on a fantastic contract. Also he played the entire playoffs on his off-hand because Gravy sucks.

    Second is Erik Johnson. Have to get rid of that contract.

    For players that I was unhappy with, most of them are gone over the next couple of years....

    Kadri was always a couple-year stopgap. I'm not happy with his stupidity, but he's only got one more year.

    Nemeth was horrible but he's gone.

    Burakovsky is a solid goal scorer but should be moved on from after next season

    Graves sucks, but you can limit his minutes and he shouldn't hurt you too much. Would be nice to see if the Avs can throw in a sweetener to get Seattle to take him.

    The Avs are still putting together an outrageously stacked young defense. Assuming that the Avs get rid of Johnson's contract, their D for next year. Current ages in parens:

    Toews(27)-Makar(22)
    Girard(23)-Graves(26)
    Byram(19)-Timmins(22)

    That's a very young group that is just going to keep getting better. Yea Graves sucks, but you can try to hide him...Girard was also incredible during the regular season. Girard-Graves might have to be a bottom pairing in the playoffs, idk.

    Forwards may have to re-shuffle a bit, but I'm just not that concerned. Hockey is hard game and very very good teams fail to win cups.
     
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    Like I suspected, their defense is above average but not great. They need that elite two-way defenseman.
     
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    They might be along with the Islanders, Lightning and Canadians.
     
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    No, total overreaction by everyone
    They were a fantastic team
    Great teams lose sometimes, that's the beauty of hockey
     
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    Bednar should be fired
     
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    Wait. I thought Makar, Toews and Girard were Elite D-Men.
     
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    Nazem Kadri costs them the series which shouldn't surprise anybody because that's what Nazem Kadri does and now this thread exists
     
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    Losing Kadri was a huge blow to them. Screwed up their depth chart.
     
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    Clearly you aren't talking about your awful team haha.
     
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    You know you’re scraping deep when you start brining up Erik Johnson
     
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    I strongly disagree, I think they played well even without him. VGK were just a tad more focused, and when you push all responsibility to Grubauer only there is a good chance he will lose the game vs. a hall of fame bound playoff goalie.
     
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    This. 100% this.

    Kadri was absolutely missed in that lineup. Say what you want about the guy, but he's an absolute spark plug for that team.
     
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    Questions were asked (rightfully so) about Tampa also after the sweep. I'm confident in the core Colorado has. It's not losing to Vegas was this huge underachievement.
     
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    Colorado was the better team in games 5 and 6.
     
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    I swear the Golden Knights are rigged. Reaves getting two games and Kadri getting a series-long suspension?

    Used to think Boston's team was Bettman's team, but I think now Bettman is hard for the Golden Knights.

    With that being said Colorado is still the one of the best teams in the league, I expect within next season they'll win a cup.
     
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    Time to double down in their defense. Get rid of guys like Graves and Nemeth who clearly can’t play the system they want.
     
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    Is that why they blew a 2-0 lead in game 5 and then lost 6-3 in game 6? You can't be serious, man.
     

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