Hey rocc I'm a fan of yours and all, but the Bombers do suck.
lol no arguing there, they do....well...they got some work to do, but this is an OT thing to get in to. Their record is somewhat misleading, we'll leave it at that. But he referenced the entire CFL, as "Fake Football" ... I think the rest of the world other than Canada and America would like to have a word with him on what "Real" football is
But not the kid who he was responding to? "I can't wait to see Evander Kane in Winnipeg colors". Give me a break.
That's fair, no debating that, just as long as you don't paint every Winnipegger like that - there are tens of thousands of hockey fans in the city, so the 10 or so who spam every known social networking entity should not be a litmus test for the entire city. Its understandable you might see a few people from here being stupid and it might lead one to generalize all "Winnipeggers" as such. We do the same when we mention "Atlanta fans" or "Phoenix fans" - I try not to, but do sometimes for the sake of keeping my point simple
TV numbers of 9000 per game are considered non-existent for all intents and purposes in a market as large as Atlanta. If the number were 9000 for Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan they would be good numbers but not a city with a metro area of 5.9 million people. I wonder who the "white knight" is that Kincade speaks about. If it is a real possibility expect comment from the NHL very soon.
This is often overlooked, but very true. I wonder what TV ratings were like before the ownership fiasco? I do believe ATL was never given the proper chance to really take off, and ownership plays a big role. But I also believe it might be too late down the road to fix that now.
There is a difference between saying an under-performing team sucks, and generalizing that Canadian Football is "fake".
With all the debate on market size, TV presence, and tv numbers... it's all moot. Yes the NHL would like a team in Atlanta. They wouldn't have granted the market a location if they didn't want a team there. The problem is finding an owner willing to operate a team in this market today. I bold "today" because the current owners don't want to be involved for another moment. At least that is what the press release implies. Without a willing partner to own in this market, it matters not how much the market makes sense to the league.
Exactly ^^^
Not a fan of the CFL so I can't really comment on that, but thats why I hope you get PHX instead. I mean to lose the 9th largest TV market would be awful. PHX has had longer, 15+ years and these problems have been going on for 5(?) years now? PHX can be replaced IMO and if not we can go to Vegas or Portland.
You never know what's going to happen, but I doubt Vegas will be a desirable solution
Actually, us Atlanta fans hold Kinkade in pretty high regard when it comes to info about the team. He's worked with the team in some capacity pretty much since day one, so he's well connected inside the organization. He's also a straight shooter who hasn't hesitated to hold the Octoturd's feet to the fire when it comes to what's going on.
On the other hand, Atlanta Journal-Constitution's Thrashers beat writer Chris Vivlamore, while a good writer, isn't as connected inside the organization.
Kinkade's the one you really want to listen to here.
As for the dude who said it was TNSE kicking the tires in Atlanta..... Why would TNSE buy Philips Arena and the Hawks? The reports during this whole fiasco is the buyer is interested in the whole shooting match..... Not just the Thrashers.
Octoturd ...
.... thats too good.
Very true, TNSE would likely not be interested in buying the whole thing, especially if "Octoturd"
laugh: cant get over this...sounds like a rejected Spiderman villain) the current group still wants to run the arena and keep the Hawks, which they seem content with keeping.
Still one must wonder why it was reportedly revealed the owners have "quietly" renegotiated their Phillip Naming Rights agreement. I think this is one of those red flag signs that only in a year we'll look back at as either an indicator or historical accuracy, or completely irrelevant.
I do not doubt the unexpected - this guy appearing out of nowhere is possible. Look at MH in Phoenix. There are many unknown businessmen, and tons of young guys, bet Atlanta alone is chalk full of em and in addition, you dont have to be FROM Atl to own the team either. Very plausible.
But if ASG wanted to keep the Hawks + Arena...then what? Would this potential owner want to have a go with some sort of lease agreement? He would have to be prepared for losses for at least a few seasons while he, provided he is a more caring and a better owner than ASG was, turns the organization around. Simply making it a "winning" team is tough too, especially if he is new to the biz, or even if he loves the sport...the business side of things doesn't always go according to plan. Signing X does not equal Stanley Cup. Even if you want to shoot for playoffs every year...there are bound to be stretches where it doesn't happen.
I think while I agree with the concept of "winning" to a degree, and how it is much more important for "non traditional" markets, I also do not think it is the single solution - it does create buzz, but if one is betting on winning as the one or singular thing that will turn around a market or situation, then its more of a gamble, and one with high faith imo.
I just hope it's all true and Kincade isn't teasing us. Also, speaking of Kincade...looks like the Winnepegers are all over his Twitter page now. Pretty funny seeing the back and forth.
If the guy is reputable, then he probably wouldn't dedicate all this energy just to make something up.
Its likely he knowns something but has to keep it under wraps to the extent he cannot reveal a name.
