Thoughts on Lehner
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SilverSeven
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I agree with a lot of this. I will say that in my experience of watching NHL hockey and years of playing at a much lower level, a bad goal is way more deflating to a team than a big save is inflating.
SilverSeven
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I will also say that this fanbase has clearly dealt with bad goalies for too long. For too long it was "if you say 1 positive thing you love him!" or "if you say one negative thing you hate him!" People need to relax on jumping on people for criticisms of anyones game. All 3 goalies are great.
ReginKarlssonLehner
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Disagree. I played goalie and when I let in a bad goal but come back and make 3-4 saves in a flurry the team has a greater jump. They see I mean business and they then feel responsible to respond and help me out.
Bad goal at a bad time is a different thing but Lehner does not have a tendency to do that whatsoever. He is actually really clutch.
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YNWA14
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He let in two bad goals at pretty bad times in two straight games. Not that I think he is a bad goal machine because he obviously plays quite well...but it would be nice to have one of those back and have 3 points right now instead of 2.
Bad goals are all part of the game. I'm sure Price isn't too thrilled that he gave up the last two either.
The most important thing is that Lehner isn't giving up the next one, and to this point, he hasn't.
The most important thing is that Lehner isn't giving up the next one, and to this point, he hasn't.
SilverSeven
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The big things for me is that he is letting in a bad goal a game and then not winning. He has been outstanding, but I wouldnt be upset if he gets another year in the AHL. We have the depth that we dont NEED him next season.
saskriders
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Yep, and don't forget he is 21. Rinne was 26 when he became a starter, Lundqvist was 24, goalies typically take longer to develop. The fact that Lehner is playing this well, and getting points (with an AHL team infront of him) at this age is great
BonkTastic
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Lehner is both reminding us that:
a) he's still 21, and he's going to make mistakes
b) he's only 21, and if he can sort out the few rough areas in his game, he's going to be a treat to watch for the next 10+ years.
a) he's still 21, and he's going to make mistakes
b) he's only 21, and if he can sort out the few rough areas in his game, he's going to be a treat to watch for the next 10+ years.
He has already dominated the A. He needs to be playing in the NHL next year to really take his game to the next level.
I have no issue sending him back once Andy gets back, but ultimately he needs more NHL experience.
TonySoprano11
It's a very delicate situation.
YNWA14
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Lehner will likely back-up Andy next year. I wouldn't worry about him getting more experience. I'm sure he knows that.
He has played better than any other 21 year old goalie I've ever watched in the NHL so I'm not worried. Just saying that he still does have areas to improve on.
He has played better than any other 21 year old goalie I've ever watched in the NHL so I'm not worried. Just saying that he still does have areas to improve on.
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BonkTastic
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Eh, I've seen better 21-year-olds, but then again I have the benefit of being an old fart who remembers being a kid and staying up late to see Patrick Roy win the Cup as a 21 year old, as well as Brodeur when he broke into the league.
ReginKarlssonLehner
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I honestly can't believe you guys.
42 saves out of 45 shots and he has stuff to work on? Wow.
The bigger issue to me was he looked like he was battling the puck more than his comfort level is used to. What bad goal did he honestly give up? The Pacioretty chance where he was 5 feet away? Pac being the hottest goalscorer in the league lately.
Give me a break, he got us that one point. Last year Anderson was giving up much worse goals. Don't let Anderson's play spoil a 21 year old's performance who has a .940 SV%!!
Whoever said he needs another year in the AHL should be voted for comedian of the year.
42 saves out of 45 shots and he has stuff to work on? Wow.
The bigger issue to me was he looked like he was battling the puck more than his comfort level is used to. What bad goal did he honestly give up? The Pacioretty chance where he was 5 feet away? Pac being the hottest goalscorer in the league lately.
Give me a break, he got us that one point. Last year Anderson was giving up much worse goals. Don't let Anderson's play spoil a 21 year old's performance who has a .940 SV%!!
Whoever said he needs another year in the AHL should be voted for comedian of the year.
This "soft goals" crap is garbage. If he continues to stop 95% of shots taken on him, he can give up goals from the red line for all I care.
ReginKarlssonLehner
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HavlatMach9
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Well Lehner simply has not played up to the high standards set by Gerber, Elliot, and LeClaire
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Eh, I've seen better 21-year-olds, but then again I have the benefit of being an old fart who remembers being a kid and staying up late to see Patrick Roy win the Cup as a 21 year old, as well as Brodeur when he broke into the league.
It might be glorified. Lehner right now is sporting above a 94% save rate and nearly 2 GAA...those are Vezina numbers. By contrast Roy had a sub 90% save rate in both his 20 and 21 year old seasons (although the playoffs were another story) and Brodeur's numbers weren't as good either -- though better than Roy's.
That said it's obviously subject to small sample size. Aside from his soft goals though he has been playing insanely good. Though I'm not old enough to have seen Roy or Brodeur in the league at 21 years old.
Also I just realized Brodeur is not as old as I thought...I guess I just can't think of him in the league that young because he feels so old now...which in turn makes me feel old.
Quo
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A bad goal is a bad goal. A good goalie is a good goalie. Occaisionally, a good goalie will let in a bad goal. He will know it's a bad goal and lash himself with a cat-o-nine-tails for a fortnight to make sure that goal never happens again. The end.
Also...not as old as grampa there to have seen the very beginnings of Roy but Brodeur was something else.
Also...not as old as grampa there to have seen the very beginnings of Roy but Brodeur was something else.
SlapJack
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For those who think Lehner needs to work on his shootouts, you have to realize that he is...it's no coincidence that almost every game he plays goes to extra time. That's just how good he is
We're getting incredibly spoiled as a fan base this year when it comes to goaltending. The team save % is in the stratosphere right now and Anderson is only half responsible for that. Compared to the rest of the league it is similar to Crosby's distance from the 2nd place scorer and beyond.
We're getting incredibly spoiled as a fan base this year when it comes to goaltending. The team save % is in the stratosphere right now and Anderson is only half responsible for that. Compared to the rest of the league it is similar to Crosby's distance from the 2nd place scorer and beyond.
