Thoughts on Hartman getting jumped after leveling Silfverberg?

[sandysan]

How is advocating for clean hard hockey snake-in the grassism???

The idea that you don't like the hit and then lie in wait to "get him later" is precisely as. Described. You take offense, you do something then and there.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Yes but if you are going to fight everytime someone "likable" gets hit you'd have a busy night. Look at hockey back in the good old violent days when it was actually a tough sport. No one would attack you for a clean hit unless it was on a superstar. If it is a knee on knee fine. Or if a guy has taken runs all night long. But for this?

Philosophy and user name do not match.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

How ironic.

How about Silf and his team mates “man up” and realize that his is hockey and hitting is legal...

Guessing you never played the game

 

[Sojourn]

If there was mental gymnastics in the Olympics youd take gold every time.

It doesn’t take a particularly flexible mind to reach logical conclusions. Suggesting this is a psychotic outburst instead of a hockey player wanting to stand up for a teammate is not logical or intelligent. It’s simply ridiculous.

 

[sandysan]

Guessing you never played the game

Maybe he's looking forward to punishing them on the scoreboard.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

It doesn’t take a particularly flexible mind to reach logical conclusions. Suggesting this is a psychotic outburst instead of a hockey player wanting to stand up for a teammate is not logical or intelligent. It’s simply ridiculous.

A routine, nothing not-fight is evidence of a psychotic outburst says the guy who accuses other people of mental gymnastics.

 

[Steal Your Faceoff]

Manson didn’t force Hartman to do anything. Manson jumped him for a heavy hit; Silf has already had concussions issues plus hockey is a fast sport, so Manson probably saw the hit and thought it was bad so he went to defend his teammate. Once he saw Hartman wasn’t going to fight, he stopped.

Stuff like this happens regularly, with the speed of the game and the mindset of protecting your teammates, it’s just going to happen.

So having had a concussion makes a guy off limits to be checked legally? Like I said in my earlier post, the whole thing about it looking like a bad hit to a guy in the speed of the game is a stretch. The whole play unfolded right in front of Manson and he had an unobstructed view of the whole thing. Silfverberg was on his butt for like a second before he bounced up and went to skate back into the play like it didn't even phase him.

 

[Sojourn]

A routine, nothing not-fight is evidence of a psychotic outburst says the guy who accuses other people of mental gymnastics.

I know. You can’t make this shit up.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Attacking people who don't want to fight is a bit psychotic..

 

[Chrisinroch]

I like big hits so...no, he shouldn’t have to fight

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Look if i learned anything from the mainboards, no suspension not dirty/cheap... league didnt punish or mind what manson did so its clean and acceptable hockey play.

B e a utiful

 

[Iapyi]

Yes but if you are going to fight everytime someone "likable" gets hit you'd have a busy night. Look at hockey back in the good old violent days when it was actually a tough sport. No one would attack you for a clean hit unless it was on a superstar. If it is a knee on knee fine. Or if a guy has taken runs all night long. But for this?

I, like you, like fighting in hockey but I disagree with your comment about a clean hit on a superstar.

Back in the day a clean hit was a clean hit no matter who it was on.

Retaliate in kind and lay out some hard clean hits on the other team, ANYTIME a player lays out a clean hit and is attacked for it goes completely against the spirit of the game.

Attacking another player for a clean hit is cowardly and pathetic, it's that simple.

 

[dracom]

So having had a concussion makes a guy off limits to be checked legally? Like I said in my earlier post, the whole thing about it looking like a bad hit to a guy in the speed of the game is a stretch. The whole play unfolded right in front of Manson and he had an unobstructed view of the whole thing. Silfverberg was on his butt for like a second before he bounced up and went to skate back into the play like it didn't even phase him.

Never said he couldn’t be hit. Seeing a teammate who has had those issues get hit will make any good teammate upset. Does it warrant go after Hartman? Probably not. I won’t get mad at Manson for showing emotion and standing up for a teammate.

Also it’s ridiculous to not consider the speed of the game. Way too many people take replays and slow motion for granted and forget the players don’t have that luxury,

 

[sherwood sniper]

For those complaining Hartman didn't fight...is it really that hard to see that his hand is wrapped and he saying he cant.? Extra penalty and a game if he does...

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Manson didn’t force Hartman to do anything. Manson jumped him for a heavy hit; Silf has already had concussions issues plus hockey is a fast sport, so Manson probably saw the hit and thought it was bad so he went to defend his teammate. Once he saw Hartman wasn’t going to fight, he stopped.

Stuff like this happens regularly, with the speed of the game and the mindset of protecting your teammates, it’s just going to happen.

If his concussion history is so bad he isn't allowed to be touched, probably time for him to retire.

 

[dracom]

If his concussion history is so bad he isn't allowed to be touched, probably time for him to retire.

You should learn to read. I never said he isn’t allowed to be hit.

 

[TheSituation]

The idea that you don't like the hit and then lie in wait to "get him later" is precisely as. Described. You take offense, you do something then and there.

That's the way YOU deem it. You would rather dish it out like a child rather than a professional. Makes considering your stance in the past.

 

[stampedingviking]

Should a player "have" to fight and answer for throwing a big open ice hit like that?

No he shouldn't.

Best bit was the duck and the Ducks players hitting each other

 

[n00bxQb]

I miss the days where you could deliver a booming, solid, yet clean check and play would just continue.

This "fight after every hit" garbage is so bush league. It's not even so much fighting as it is pushing/shoving/hugging

Scott Stevens: 0 career fights after hard, legal checks.

 

[BrianE]

Hartman got a penalty there? Wtf NHL. Be a real league already because we're tired of waiting

Amen brother.

 

[DatSnipeMatthews]

I grew up watching real hockey where you didn't get jumped for a textbook clean hit. Manson is pathetic.

 

[Kybb79]

Manson does stuff like that. He tried it with Bennett and got dropped.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Manson was given 4, Hartman 2.

I think manson should have got the double, and Hartman should have gotten 0(he got 2 for roughing) ... so they should have had at least a 4 min pp... refs messed up that call.

Yeah, probably 2 fewer than it should have been, but not egregious.

 

[DatSnipeMatthews]

Yeah, no. That isn't what happened at all.

What actually happened was he wanted to fight someone who he felt took a liberty on a teammate, and he stopped throwing when he realized his opponent wasn't interested.

It should be treated as a player randomly starting to throw punches at a guy for no reason. Because there was no reason. None whatsoever. Manson jumped Hartman for 0 reason given that clean body checks are legal.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Manson does stuff like that. He tried it with Bennett and got dropped.

Lol he grabbed bennet before he jumped on grant with the rest of the flames, on a mike smith flop.... and got sucker punched then tripped on a stick and then bennet quit after he got tired.
If anything the flames were doing what everyone is saying the ducks shouldnt have done here