Not happening with Doughty,management and ownership want him to stay.Doughty wants to stay as well.Even if this werent true,it would take more than the Kapanen and Sandin.LA kings, quite easily among others.
They get Sandin + Kap then flip Barrie to Edmonton for Gagner (Dump) + 1st + good prospect
pretty sure habs would easily do it for weber. sharks would move eithe rone of burhns/karlsson, zona probably would move OEL for that haul
have you not seen Sandin play this year? he is probably the best D prospect not named Byram (2-4 pretty close with him, romanov and boqvist)
+ Barrie at 2.75 AND Kapanen locked up to a sweetheart 3.2 deal. thats a HUGE package
You will not get a #1 Dman for that
Sandin being ED exempt helps. Sandin is not projectedas atop 2 Dman.
You can get a strong 2nd pair Dman
Whatisya....a ijit? Sandin is already a good defensemen. Put Johnsson up there instead.What is the best defenseman this package could return for the Leafs?
Rasmus Sandin
Kasperi Kapanen
Tyson Barrie (UFA)
maybe if I use other teams assets of similar value you will see the value in this pkgAside from the two guys Toronto already has niskanen and klefbom are the only ones I'd accept that package for. I don't see either moving. I'd set your sights a little lower
What is the best defenseman this package could return for the Leafs?
Rasmus Sandin
Kasperi Kapanen
Tyson Barrie (UFA)
I would still float the idea of putting Liljegren(+) on the table for Manson.First the TML are not trading Sandin. We are in a crazy cap crunch and you want to trade our top organizational prospect. A Defenceman we desperately need....
While Kap is a luxury we truly don’t have a defensively responsible 3RW who if needed can play up the lineup and is signed to a value contract.
Personally I make the following available if we can get a top 4 RHD. Now there is an assumption I would go on in that Muzzin is resigned.
Barrie
AJ or Kerfoot
Dermott
Ideally when healthy and next year
Reilly ??????
Muzzin Liljegren
Sandin Holl
I would still float the idea of putting Liljegren(+) on the table for Manson.
Brent Burns........ lol I wish. Probably Petro with a small add from the blues. Leafs shouldn’t be trading Sandin.What is the best defenseman this package could return for the Leafs?
Rasmus Sandin
Kasperi Kapanen
Tyson Barrie (UFA)
Habs would certainly not do that for WeberLA kings, quite easily among others.
They get Sandin + Kap then flip Barrie to Edmonton for Gagner (Dump) + 1st + good prospect
pretty sure habs would easily do it for weber. sharks would move eithe rone of burhns/karlsson, zona probably would move OEL for that haul
have you not seen Sandin play this year? he is probably the best D prospect not named Byram (2-4 pretty close with him, romanov and boqvist)
+ Barrie at 2.75 AND Kapanen locked up to a sweetheart 3.2 deal. thats a HUGE package
Leafs would never offer this for Weber.Habs would certainly not do that for Weber
I dont think there is a dman in this league that is a Sandin+Kapanen more valuable than Barrie.
have you not seen Sandin play this year? he is probably the best D prospect not named Byram (2-4 pretty close with him, romanov and boqvist)
Those are examples of pending UFAsWhen is the last time you've seen a package that valuable get traded? Karlsson, Stone, Hall all recently traded star players and they didn't get anything close to that in return. Barrie alone would return a 1st plus decent prospect at the deadline if he was available.
If the leafs offered that package up, they should be getting an all star level #1D with a lot of term back in return. And no, not somebody like Manson. That package returns a much, much better player than that.
Excellent post. Sandin is no Georgiev.Of course he is. He is a Leafs prospect after all. No other teams prospects can compare.
I hope not, but Dubas ain’t the brightest ladLeafs would never offer this for Weber.
Completely agree. Good post slim. But I still don’t know who would bite on it though.
People have been getting burned lately. Look at the Sharks and Karlsson? You think they would like to re do the trade over again?
I don't think the Oilers would even consider moving Klefbom for Sandin and Kapanen. Klefbom is far to important to their defense right now. They already have Bouchard and Broberg as well as Bear, Jones and Lagesson. They don't need any young defensemen who are not ready to take on what Klefbom does. Barrie would not make enough of a difference to change this since his value as a rental this year would be minimal without Klefbom.Aside from the two guys Toronto already has niskanen and klefbom are the only ones I'd accept that package for. I don't see either moving. I'd set your sights a little lower
You will not get a #1 Dman for that
Sandin being ED exempt helps. Sandin is not projectedas atop 2 Dman.
You can get a strong 2nd pair Dman
Its not a slight to Weber's skill level, its that his age and contract make him a tough fit.I hope not, but Dubas ain’t the brightest lad
I understand completely, if your making a package that big in value you’re doing it to have a young cost controlled Dman whose top 3 Rn and can hopefully improve. In a vacuum I think Weber is worth more but at the end of the day value is perceived by both sides. Not a good fitIts not a slight to Weber's skill level, its that his age and contract make him a tough fit.