Third Jersey

[Tsujimoto]

I think I'm the only person that liked the red butter knives jersey.

I liked it, except for the BUFFALO on the hem stripes.

 

[Dex]

Can somebody explain to me why we are celebrating our 50th anniversary in 19-20 even though we celebrated our 40th anniversary in 10-11?

I think it's because it depends on what you're celebrating - the number of years there has been an NHL franchise in Buffalo or the number of seasons played. Recall that 2004-05 season was wiped out from the standpoint of play, but the franchise was still in existence


1970-71 First year of franchise and first season of play
1971-72 2nd
1972-73 3rd
1973-74 4th
1974-75 5th
1975-76 6th
1976-77 7th
1977-78 8th
1978-79 9th
1979-80 10th year of franchise and 10th season of play

1989- 90 20th year of franchise and 20th season of play

1999-2000 30th year of franchise and 30th season of play

2003 -04 24th year of franchise and 24th season of play
2004-05 25 year of franchise and did not play
2005-06 26th year of franchise and 25th season of play

2009-10 40th year of franchise and 39th season of play
2010-11 41st year of franchise and 40th season of play

2019-20 50th year of franchise and 49th season of play
2020-21 51st year of franchise and 50th season of play

 

[Paxon]

I think it's because it depends on what you're celebrating - the number of years there has been an NHL franchise in Buffalo or the number of seasons played. Recall that 2004-05 season was wiped out from the standpoint of play, but the franchise was still in existence


1970-71 First year of franchise and first season of play
1971-72 2nd
1972-73 3rd
1973-74 4th
1974-75 5th
1975-76 6th
1976-77 7th
1977-78 8th
1978-79 9th
1979-80 10th year of franchise and 10th season of play

1989- 90 20th year of franchise and 20th season of play

1999-2000 30th year of franchise and 30th season of play

2003 -04 24th year of franchise and 24th season of play
2004-05 25 year of franchise and did not play
2005-06 26th year of franchise and 25th season of play

2009-10 40th year of franchise and 39th season of play
2010-11 41st year of franchise and 40th season of play

2019-20 50th year of franchise and 49th season of play
2020-21 51st year of franchise and 50th season of play

That still doesn't explain the change from '10-'11.

 

[dotcommunism]

That still doesn't explain the change from '10-'11.

Golisano still owned the team then, didn't he?

 

[Paxon]

Golisano still owned the team then, didn't he?

Yes. The change in ownership was my first thought but I wound up making my snarky comment about the team being baffling instead. It makes sense as part of why the thinking's different but it's just cheesy celebrating the 50th nine years after the 40th. Maybe they don't want it getting in the way of the big Feb '21 celebration of 10 great years under the Pegulas.

 

[Dex]

That still doesn't explain the change from '10-'11.

Were they celebrating the 40th season of play or the 40th anniversary of the team? In 2010-2011 - they were playing in their 40th NHL season of play. In 2009 - 2010 - they would have celebrated their 40th anniversary of being an NHL franchise. I don't know what else to say and I don't remember if the Sabres ever specified.

 

[Dex]

Yes. The change in ownership was my first thought but I wound up making my snarky comment about the team being baffling instead. It makes sense as part of why the thinking's different but it's just cheesy celebrating the 50th nine years after the 40th. Maybe they don't want it getting in the way of the big Feb '21 celebration of 10 great years under the Pegulas.

It might seem cheesy celebrating the 50th nine years after the 40th. But is is cheesy to celebrate the 50th anniversary fifty years after the founding of the franchise? I can't speak for the 2010-2011 except to say that it was factually the 40th season of play because of the 04-05 lockout. At the same time, on 2010-2011 the team was in its 41st year of existence. I can only assume that in 2010 - 2011 the team celebrated its 40th season of play and that in 2019-2020, the Sabres are celebrating 50 years as an NHL franchise.

 

[Paxon]

It might seem cheesy celebrating the 50th nine years after the 40th. But is is cheesy to celebrate the 50th anniversary fifty years after the founding of the franchise? I can't speak for the 2010-2011 except to say that it was factually the 40th season of play because of the 04-05 lockout. At the same time, on 2010-2011 the team was in its 41st year of existence. I can only assume that in 2010 - 2011 the team celebrated its 40th season of play and that in 2019-2020, the Sabres are celebrating 50 years as an NHL franchise.

Being that the 1st anniversary would've been '71-'72, wouldn't the 40th anniversary have been '10-'11? I imagine that is as much what they were celebrating as it technically being their 40th season.

 

[MayDayMayDay]

Give me a Buffagoat and make them all royal blue and gold.

 

[Dex]

I will try one last time.

In October of 1970, the Sabres began their first year and season as an NHL franchise. In November of 1970, they were one month into their first year/season as an NHL franchise in December 1970, January 1971, February and March they were in their first year/season as an NHL franchise. In April, they concluded their first season as an NHL franchise.

Similarly, in October of 2019, they they will start their 50th year as an NHL franchise. Throughout the season - until April of 2020 and hopefully into the playoffs, they will be competing in their 50th year as an NHL franchise. So - to me it makes sense that they celebrate their 50th year as an NHL franchise during the year in which that event occurs, not starting in October of 2020 because in October 2020, they will begin their 51st year as an NHL franchise. The complicating factor is that while they will be beginning their 51st year as an NHL franchise, it will actually be the 50th season in which they are competing as a result of the 2004-05 lockout year in which there was no season.

 

[Sabre the Win]

Blue and gold goat for me.

I would love this, the goat head with the royal blue and gold colors

 

[Tatre]

What would be worse, the buffaslug or the moo-terus?

 

[sabremike]

What would be worse, the buffaslug or the moo-terus?

 

[Vito_81]

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That logo was bad.

But the following season with a different logo, was the best the Isles ever had IMO.

 

[Husko]

I'm pro blue and gold all day, and I still think there's a way to do a gold third jersey well, as horrible as our last attempt was, that said:

To the extent there is an appetite to bring back the black/red oddity in some fashion, I would be interested to see what they could do with a black and gold third jersey concept

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Club]

hoping the reveal is 7/16

 

[5 Minute Major]

I'm pro blue and gold all day, and I still think there's a way to do a gold third jersey well, as horrible as our last attempt was, that said:

To the extent there is an appetite to bring back the black/red oddity in some fashion, I would be interested to see what they could do with a black and gold third jersey concept

The Bruins and Penguins say hello.

Lets be ourselves.

 

[ThatsAud]

Does anybody know or recall why the Sabres modified their logo in the late 1970s/early 1980s to what you see in the Perreault jersey from the 1979-80 season? It's similar but clearly different than the original, and then they revert back to the original sometime in the 1980s. I've never come across any information about what led to the changes.

 

[Club]

I wish bruh

 

[Smehlik MyFinger]

Does anybody know or recall why the Sabres modified their logo in the late 1970s/early 1980s to what you see in the Perreault jersey from the 1979-80 season? It's similar but clearly different than the original, and then they revert back to the original sometime in the 1980s. I've never come across any information about what led to the changes.

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This is simply due to manufacturers error and sloppy execution, the team itself never changed the official logo. This was pre computers and digital digitizing so the variance from year to year is akin to making a copy of a copy of a copy etc... Plus they switched from Rawlings to Maska (CCM).
The most noticeable change are these early 80's Maska jerseys where the Bison looks like a ghost and the swords are more spaced apart at the hilts.
Oddly CCM and Maska are the same company and same factory, and by the mid-80's the crest was much better and closer to the actual logo you would see in print materials.

 

[jBuds]

This is simply due to manufacturers error and sloppy execution, the team itself never changed the official logo. This was pre computers and digital digitizing so the variance from year to year is akin to making a copy of a copy of a copy etc... Plus they switched from Rawlings to Maska (CCM).
The most noticeable change are these early 80's Maska jerseys where the Bison looks like a ghost and the swords are more spaced apart at the hilts.
Oddly CCM and Maska are the same company and same factory, and by the mid-80's the crest was much better and closer to the actual logo you would see in print materials.

Awesome.

I was going to say that it just looks like a better, more circular and properly proportioned version of the same logo, intimating exactly what you said.

 

[Taro Tsujimoto]

Possible leak!

Spoiler

 

[SabreOil]

Possible leak!

Spoiler

I'll judge it when I see the full uniform on ice. Right now, jersey alone, I'm not a fan but that could change.

 

[TheStorm]

Seems fine to me. Million times better than that abomination that was their last third jersey.