Blue Jays Discussion: Things happening this winter! (Jays sign Ryu, Shaw)

[Discoverer]

If Price were a free agent his value would be around what Kuechel got for the guaranteed 3 year term portion of his deal which is 55.5M. The argument could be made he's slightly less valuable or slightly more valuable so for arguments sake Price is worth 50M to 60M.

With Price owed 96M that still leaves anywhere from 36M to 46M in bad money on the deal.

Price being two years older and having trouble staying healthy the last few years makes me think he would get quite a bit less than Keuchel. I would put his yearly salary lower, and I can't imagine he would get three years.

 

[Discoverer]

Not unless there's something seriously valuable coming back to offset that risk.

Well... that would kind of be the whole point.

 

[The Nemesis]

Well... that would kind of be the whole point.

Yeah, but I mean seriously valuable. Like... Benintendi valuable. I'm not keen on taking that risk for some of the junk that the Red Sox have in their prospect pool when most of it is high risk or redundant with what the Jays already have.

I've mentioned it a couple of times but I don't think the Red Sox would be willing to part with what I would deem necessary to take that leap, and I don't think the Jays will want to consider taking what the Red Sox are willing to offer.

 

[Discoverer]

Yeah, but I mean seriously valuable. Like... Benintendi valuable. I'm not keen on taking that risk for some of the junk that the Red Sox have in their prospect pool when most of it is high risk or redundant with what the Jays already have.

I've mentioned it a couple of times but I don't think the Red Sox would be willing to part with what I would deem necessary to take that leap, and I don't think the Jays will want to consider taking what the Red Sox are willing to offer.

That's why, if a trade were to happen, I think the Red Sox retaining significant money and giving up lesser assets is the most likely scenario.

(Ultimately, though, I think the cost of moving him is high enough that they don't bother and end up keeping him.)

 

[Leafin]

Ryu to jays? Done

 

[Canada4Gold]

 

[Canada4Gold]

That's a lot. And it feels like settling for a deal I'm not sure I like. But at least we did something and our rotation is better.

 

[Advanced stats]

Happy with it!

 

[as Pure as Evil]

Boom now we can complain they did something but hate it

 

[theaub]

Let’s get it

 

[Greek_physique]

Like it....now we can trade for another pitcher if needed

 

[stickty111]

Good to hear. I am fine with the contract. If it takes to overpay for a starting pitcher, thats alright by me.

 

[Advanced stats]

Like it....now we can trade for another pitcher if needed

Ryu
Anderson
Roark
...isn't a awful top 3?

 

[TF97]

Shaw and Ryu? Good day for the front office. Love both moves.

 

[hoc123]

Overpay for me, but if we have to overpay, I’m glad its for someone with no draft pick compensation, and for someone who I really like. How good the deal is depends on how healthy he remains.

 

[SubyDubyTML]

Is it a slight overpay? Yah.
Do I care? No.
Love this move!

 

[Xanner]

Ryu is awesome, you guys are going to love him, bummed that he isn't coming back to LA

 

[hoc123]

Also, as expected, a David Price trade is out now

 

[BertCorbeau]

Well all that talking and they made some needed moves.

Interesting

 

[Discoverer]

I'll take that over the Keuchel deal every day.

 

[Amadeus]

Ryu is a Boras client too.

Like what they have done so far. Still feel we need an impact bat and another pitcher.

 

[landy92mack29]

It's a bit of a risk given his age and injury history but a necessary one and with the core being cheap it's easily to fit going ahead. Now just sign EE and that's a pretty good offseason

 

[Dr.Funk]

I like it and if it is front loaded i will love it.

 

[inthe6ix]

ryu kidding me

 

[trellaine201]

That's a lot. And it feels like settling for a deal I'm not sure I like. But at least we did something and our rotation is better.

not our money lol but seems way too much?