The "Tanking" And/Or Other Roster Moves Discussion Thread

[Long Live Lyle]

Without some moves money gets real tight next year unless Jarmo kicks the can down the road and hands out more bridge deals. As things stand right now with guys I would consider core players only Jones and Werenski and Atkinson if one counts him are signed beyond next year. On top of that Jones and Werenski are UFA/RFA after the following season. Jarmo has some tough decisions in the next couple years.

As for Wennberg I predict he does not get bought out even though I think he should. Going into next season with PLD, Tex, Jenner, and Nash as the centers would be a disaster and right now I don't see anyone in the pipeline to change that. Instead of freeing up cap space and going after a high end guy I would rather see Jarmo go after a 2C and hope Nash 2.0 doesn't repeat itself.

I fail to see how that’d be a “disaster”. Seems pretty solid-good to me, even if a bit presumptuous on Texier.

Presuming Wennberg finishes the season as he has up to this point, I’d be pretty surprised if he’s not bought out. I think it was fair to give him another chance, particularly if you didn’t need the cap space this year (which we didn’t) and could still buy him out for 1/3 after the season (which we can). Sometimes guys just have bad years. But this is pretty clearly who he is now. Whether it’s due to Wilson or 16-17 was a fluke (likely a bit of both), it doesn’t really matter. Can’t be spending $5M on a player like him. If it was a 2/3 buyout, maybe you just suck it up, but I’d be pretty surprised at 1/3 if we keep him, barring a much-improved last half of the season.

 

[koteka]

Lias Andersson wants a trade. Former top 10 pick.

https://nypost.com/2019/12/21/rangers-former-top-pick-lias-andersson-asks-for-trade/

21 year old center

Lias Andersson Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

 

[Viqsi]

Lias Andersson wants a trade. Former top 10 pick.

https://nypost.com/2019/12/21/rangers-former-top-pick-lias-andersson-asks-for-trade/

21 year old center

Lias Andersson Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

The way I've heard he's been performing lately - both at the NHL and AHL level - I think I'd rather have the 5th round pick it ought to take to get him.

 

[Finner]

How about Mikael Granlund? He just dont belong to the Preds. He was great in Minnesota and now he is playing not si good that jos tradevalue has fallen, should be low price, high reward

 

[Jovavic]

How about Mikael Granlund? He just dont belong to the Preds. He was great in Minnesota and now he is playing not si good that jos tradevalue has fallen, should be low price, high reward

I believe he's UFA at the end of this season, might be a good player to target for a middle six spot.

 

[EspenK]

Does Granlund play C or RW? Capfriendly has him as both

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Meh. Don’t we have middle six players?

 

[Cyclones Rock]

Meh. Don’t we have middle six players?

You can never have enough mediocrity.

 

[cbjfaninmo]

You can never have enough mediocrity.

 

[EspenK]

Meh. Don’t we have middle six players?

Until he went to Nashville he put up or we on track to put up 60+ pts 3 straight years. That sounds like a solid 2C if he plays C. Tried to get an answer to that question but so far no answer.

 

[Finner]

Does Granlund play C or RW? Capfriendly has him as both

Granlund has played both of them . Early when he started his career he was playing rw, cause Minnesotas centers was tough.

 

[EspenK]

Granlund has played both of them . Early when he started his career he was playing rw, cause Minnesotas centers was tough.

Guy on Nashville board says he is playing W this year. Minny fans say the same and aren't very complimentary about him. I guess I don't see Jarmo thinking he's the answer at 2c.

 

[Viqsi]

Does Granlund play C or RW? Capfriendly has him as both

W. He's had repeated issues at C at the NHL level such that he probably shouldn't be there.

 

[Cowumbus]

Why would you think Taylor Hall is at the end of his career? He just turned 28.

A Forwards peak in scoring is around 20-25. No need to give huge deals to guys on the back 9 of their careers.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

A Forwards peak in scoring is around 20-25. No need to give huge deals to guys on the back 9 of their careers.

Sounds like you are making a case for UFA status to be dropped to 23 instead of 27 in the next CBA so players can actually get paid. Owners can't hold them down when they are young and then not pay them when they "pass their prime."

 

[Cowumbus]

Sounds like you are making a case for UFA status to be dropped to 23 instead of 27 in the next CBA so players can actually get paid. Owners can't hold them down when they are young and then not pay them when they "pass their prime."

Nah you can pay them. I’m not paying beyond 4-5 years though.

 

[MoeBartoli]

It good to see this thread move away from people urging the FO to tank. What a miserable way to play our a season.

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

It good to see this thread move away from people urging the FO to tank. What a miserable way to play our a season.

Torts has us playing competent hockey and we need to fire him before he ruins our draft spot.

 

[Cowumbus]

It good to see this thread move away from people urging the FO to tank. What a miserable way to play our a season.

Many people were upset that he was not playing young talent, now he is being forced to play guys.

 

[ViD]

Jarmo needs to do some magic and offload Wennberg for someone who actually wants to play

 

[koteka]

Jarmo needs to do some magic and offload Wennberg for someone who actually wants to play

He has played well the last couple of games. But people have to complain about something or someone even though we are on a 5 game win streak.

 

[ViD]

He has played well the last couple of games. But people have to complain about something or someone even though we are on a 5 game win streak.

I dont see how he played well, same lazy performance all over again.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

He has played well the last couple of games. But people have to complain about something or someone even though we are on a 5 game win streak.

I agree in general with this sentiment but will add that ‘played well’ to me is defined in this instance as hasn’t been ass and been passable compared with the low expectations he has set for himself with this past play.’

 

[EDM]

It is the holiday season. So, "no comment". But you can probably guess with a high degree of accuracy what my comment wou0ld be.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

Jarmo needs to do some magic and offload Wennberg for someone who actually wants to play

Because of the 1/3rd buyout option, retaining salary makes no sense for the CBJ and taking his contract on makes no sense for anyone else. Wennberg's buyout numbers are so small that it doesn't warrant taking a bad contract for him.

He'll get bought out and someone will sign him to the perfunctory $1 million one year prove it contract. He will prove he belongs in Europe.