The Salary Cap Needs To Go!

[Semantics]

I'm okay with the salary cap, but there shouldn't be revenue sharing on top of it. The Leafs are spending more money on other teams players than their own.

 

[Matthews34]

Yes, I wouldn’t. I would want my team to win the competition with as even ground to battle it out as possible.

Winning the cup just because you have more money means nothing other than you have more money.

It would be an empty victory

Ask Yankees or Red Sox fans if they feel their championships are tainted?

 

[PsYcNeT]

Why should it???? My team is one of the richest therefore I want them to abe ble to spend as much as they want on players. You're telling me if the shoe was on the foot you wouldn't want the same?

Have you ever considered that the salary cap is what makes your team rich?

 

[KingsFan7824]

I agree
If I were in charge I'd abolish the Salary Cap, and every team would have equal odds in the draft lottery. It's pathetic how professional sports has adopted the "Everybody gets a ribbon" mentality.

Sort of a reason all the leagues in North America do that to at least some extent. And have for decades.

This makes no sense. The Hawks kept winning championships even after shedding salary to meet the cap. They were a very well managed team. Your leafs would do vey well to follow their lead.

Anyhoo. Look up. Look way up. Your theory that the cap isn’t helping small market teams is blown to smithereens when you look up at the top of the standings.

Drops mic...

It's all assuming the Hawks have their same 2010 team without the cap. Take away the cap in 2005, and everything after that is up in the air.

 

[Echo Roku]

Ask Yankees or Red Sox fans if they feel their championships are tainted?

So you’d be happy if the Leafs just bought a Championship instead of earned one? Just for the sake of saying you’ve won one?

 

[Eat The Rich]

Have you ever considered that the salary cap is what makes your team rich?

That's dumb. The Leafs were the richest team in the NHL long before the Salary Cap was implemented.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Since the salary cap was instituted we haven't seen a shift in power for small market teams to large market teams. What we see is cap manipulation with small market teams using the artificial cap hits to get to the cap floor so they can receive subsidies and large market teams dismantled because the hard cap but still winning cups like Chicago, Boston, LA and Pittsburg even Washington. The bottom feeders are still the bottom feeders. The perceived parity is due to the 3 point system not the cap system. I wish the NHL would go to a luxury tax system like MLB or NBA. The cap system in hockey is a socialist system and thumbs it's nose at capitalism. For life of me I don't understand how you setup a business structure that rewards failure and punishes successful franchises. I don't get it.

The 9 biggest markets in the NHL had a combined ONE playoff round victory last season (Boston)

The bottom 9 had 3.

Looks like your point is wrong

 

[Matthews34]

That's dumb. The Leafs were the richest team in the NHL long before the Salary Cap was implemented.

They rich before that

 

[Peiskos]

The cap reflects real life. Money should not give you an advantage.

Huh? but in real life money does give you an advantage..its why you see some people with 5 car garages and some people holding cardboard signs on the street corners.

 

[Eat The Rich]

The cap reflects real life. Money should not give you an advantage.

That's why the people with the most money live in poverty while the rest of us are out on our luxury yachts travelling the world... Right?

 

[Matthews34]

The 9 biggest markets in the NHL had a combined ONE playoff round victory last season (Boston)

The bottom 9 had 3.

Looks like your point is wrong

Good job with the recency bias.

 

[PsYcNeT]

That's dumb. The Leafs were the richest team in the NHL long before the Salary Cap was implemented.

Except they are way more rich now. And their revenue intakes correlate with the implementation of the salary cap, or do you not know how data works?

 

[tucker3434]

Yes, I wouldn’t. I would want my team to win the competition with as even ground to battle it out as possible.

Winning the cup just because you have more money means nothing other than you have more money.

It would be an empty victory

I don’t know. 2001 was pretty great...

 

[New Jersey]

I will repeat: The Toronto Maple Leafs [literally and figuratively] are not in the same league as the New York Yankees.

Yankee Stadium cost more than the entire value of the Leafs' franchise.

 

[Matthews34]

I don’t know. 2001 was pretty great...

HAHAHA Good job!!!

 

[Eat The Rich]

Except they are way more rich now. And their revenue intakes correlate with the implementation of the salary cap, or do not know how data works?

That's totally irrelevant when every team saw gains like that.

What is relevant is that the Leafs had more money than every other team for as long as I've been alive. The Salary Cap has absolutely nothing to do with Toronto being the richest team in the league. IN fact, the things that everyone here complains about the most are the reason why the Leafs are the richest team in the league.

 

[Matthews34]

I will repeat: The Toronto Maple Leafs [literally and figuratively] are not in the same league as the New York Yankees.

You're right, the Yankees don't have a salary cap.

 

[Svechhammer]

Doesn't that kinda prove the point that having no salary cap wouldn't actually create super teams and destroy any level of parody though?

It just proves that Toronto, NYR, and Philly have incompetent owners and management who don't know how to put together a talented team even with all the money in the world at their disposal. But that changes over time, and the second they would be able to put it together, goodnight to the rest of the league. You then have a game like college football where its Bama winning title after title, and everyone else playing for pride. No thank you.

The Cap keeps the entire league healthy by making sure the big markets can't spend the small markets to submission. It helps evens the playing field so that everyone has an equal path to success. That means more fans throughout the league think they have a chance to win, meaning more people will tune in and more people will get engaged, buy merchandise, and cheer on their teams. Look at the average attendance here in the NHL. Really, only Carolina has truly horrific attendance right now, and that is a direct result of missing the playoffs for 9 straight years. Pretty much every other arena holds its own night in and night out. Now look at attendance in basketball and baseball. At any given time, half the teams in that league have its fans checked out. Playing in front of empty arenas is the norm for anyone not in direct contention, and there are very clear lines of contention.

But hey, seeing as you are a Rangers fan, I totally get it. You want it to be easy just like you have with the Yankees where more than half the league never really has a legitimate shot of winning in the next 15 years, so you're pretty much guaranteed a title every 5 years because of how much you spend.

 

[PsYcNeT]

That's totally irrelevant when every team saw gains like that.

So you're saying that every team getting richer because of the salary cap is a bad thing?

Do you two even have a point?

 

[New Jersey]

You're right, the Yankees don't have a salary cap.

And as a Yankees fan who follows them closely and attends games (I know, a non-bandwagon Yankees fan, your mind is blown), they lose, too.

Let me put it this way:

Only seven of the Yankees' 27 titles have come since the beginning of the 1970s, which coincides with waves of expansion in baseball.

The Yankees also lost to two expansion teams in the World Series in 2001 and 2003.

For you to think that having the most money will automatically buy you titles is like, wildly short-sighted.

 

[Esq]

I, for one, welcome our salary cap overlords! All hail the salary cap!

 

[PsYcNeT]

Like, if the OP and his friend would just come out and say "yeah, we just want Toronto to be able to throw gobs of cash at Nylander and UFAs and such" and just owned it instead of tiptoeing around their motivations, at least we could have some sort of honest discussion.

 

[Jesus Take the Wheel]

You would think with how successful of a franchise Toronto is they would have bought more cup victorys from 1968-2005

 

[New Jersey]

Like, if the OP and his friend would just come out and say "yeah, we just want Toronto to be able to throw gobs of cash at Nylander and UFAs and such" and just owned it instead of tiptoeing around their motivations, at least we could have some sort of honest discussion.

i'm good on this thread now

 

[Viqsi]

Like, if the OP and his friend would just come out and say "yeah, we just want Toronto to be able to throw gobs of cash at Nylander and UFAs and such" and just owned it instead of tiptoeing around their motivations, at least we could have some sort of honest discussion.

Not really, because the discussion would consist mostly of outright insults and dismissals as opposed to folks tiptoeing around such things.