The Salary Cap Needs To Go!

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  1. Matthews34

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    Since the salary cap was instituted we haven't seen a shift in power for small market teams to large market teams. What we see is cap manipulation with small market teams using the artificial cap hits to get to the cap floor so they can receive subsidies and large market teams dismantled because the hard cap but still winning cups like Chicago, Boston, LA and Pittsburg even Washington. The bottom feeders are still the bottom feeders. The perceived parity is due to the 3 point system not the cap system. I wish the NHL would go to a luxury tax system like MLB or NBA. The cap system in hockey is a socialist system and thumbs it's nose at capitalism. For life of me I don't understand how you setup a business structure that rewards failure and punishes successful franchises. I don't get it.
     
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    :laugh::laugh:

    A Toronto fan telling us that the cap needs to go. Look at this guy.
     
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    The cap reflects real life. Money should not give you an advantage.
     
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  5. Pantokrator

    Pantokrator Who's the clown?

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    The purpose of the salary cap is to help give each franchise a chance. Winnipeg and Nashville are not large markets yet both are top contenders for the Cup. Pittsburgh can be argued to be a small market franchise as well.

    If you get rid of the Cap, the Rangers just throw ridiculous money at all UFAs like they used to. So when Scheifele becomes a UFA, and Laine, the Rangers (or Detroit, Montreal, Toronto, and other large markets) offer them each 20 mil per season - or more. Winnipeg can't match that which means they have less chance of keeping good talent.

    You can go that way if you want, and end up with the MLB or European soccer where the same teams win each year and small markets have an extremely low chance of winning.
     
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    The simple fact is this.... the salary cap means that not only do small market teams have expense protections from going under, but it also gives cost certainties for the big markets that can now make even more money. You'll hear cities like Chicago and Toronto complain about it in public, but you better believe that the owners are giddy in the background knowing that they'll never have to worry about spending over a certain amount of money while the profits keep rolling in. The only thing better than making money is making even more money, and the salary cap helps the big dogs do just that.

    It benefits the big and the small owners, it's not going away.
     
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    The cap reflects the leagues desire to restrict player salaries and create parity.
     
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    Why? so the leafs can overpay old burned out UFA's with the promise of a cup run that ends in missing the playoffs or losing in the first round to an underdog? Its been done before, might want to google the 90's.
     
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    You want the NHL to turn into the NBA and have the same 2-4 teams in the finals for years?

    Wtf?
     
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    The loser point creates parity
     
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    How bout no?
     
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    How many large market teams reached the second round of playoffs last season?
     
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    Really surprised to see a Leafs fan wanting the cap gone...what could be the reason here :huh:
     
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    I am tired of this narrative about the Golden State Warriors. They won a championship before Durant and they would win one without him if James wasn't a freak of nature. The Warriors built their team through the draft and their talent attracted top free agents. Out of all the teams people choose to pick on its always them when they were not a big spender before their success. Maybe being a smart well built organization allowed to them make their money? i don't know, maybe i will stay salty and say the NBA is boring like everyone else.

    If the internet was around in the 80's i bet people would ***** about the Oilers and Islanders having 9 cups between them in a 10 year span.
     
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    Nashville, Winnipeg, San Jose, Tampa, Pittsburgh, Washington, Vegas...all "large market" teams.

    Vegas has two teams in the top 10 of odds to win the 2019 Cup: Leafs and Bruins.

    Want to reconsider:

     
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    You're partly correct. But without a salary cap, there were would fewer good teams and eventually fewer teams in the league as low revenue teams/cities would eventually lose their franchise as money losing owners would just give up. So as you suggest parity is important.
    The NHLPA wants to keep members manning 31 NHL franchises, and do not franchises disappearing .
     
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    Why? Toronto couldn't win without salary cap since the 60's. Now they have some players and they are going to have to pay them, you feel the rules should change? Your post doesn't even make sense. in the last decade and change LA, Pittsburgh and Chicago have won the majority of cups. Not exactly small market. Think before you type.
     
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    He obviously does, he cheers for one of the richest teams in the league.
     
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    Well, that’s obvious.
     
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    You act as if removing the salary cap doesn't have as much a chance to ruin franchises as much as help them. Overspending has ruined some clubs and franchises globally.
     
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    I’m not a big NBA fan but sure GS were good before Durant. but with that Durant move it set the league into an arms race.

    Point is, how does a smaller team even compete? It’s totally broken right now
     
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    The comparisons to the NBA are foolish.
     
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    I don't recall seeing any of these threads back in the 2014-15 or 2015-16 season... I wonder what changed.
     
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    But is real money gives you an absolute advantage in life. Where do you live where this is not true??? Hahahahahah
     
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    New Jersey not too high, not too low

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    The New York Rangers had nearly $80M payrolls in the pre-cap era and they sucked for over half a decade.

    On second thought, OP may be onto something here...
     
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