The Salary Cap Needs To Go!

[tarheelhockey]

The salary cap has

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to do with parity.

The cap is there to control player salaries, end of story. A hard cap gives the owners an actual dollar figure each year that cannot be exceeded.

If you think that ANY owner will EVER give up that kind of cost control just because they're salty about losing a player every once in a while, you're fooling yourself.

 

[Paperbagofglory]

I’m not a big NBA fan but sure GS were good before Durant. but with that Durant move it set the league into an arms race.

Point is, how does a smaller team even compete? It’s totally broken right now

Yet when James organized his whole Miami excursion with 3 of his superstar friends, nobody batted an eye?

 

[Jumptheshark]

Since the salary cap was instituted we haven't seen a shift in power for small market teams to large market teams. What we see is cap manipulation with small market teams using the artificial cap hits to get to the cap floor so they can receive subsidies and large market teams dismantled because the hard cap but still winning cups like Chicago, Boston, LA and Pittsburg even Washington. The bottom feeders are still the bottom feeders. The perceived parity is due to the 3 point system not the cap system. I wish the NHL would go to a luxury tax system like MLB or NBA. The cap system in hockey is a socialist system and thumbs it's nose at capitalism. For life of me I don't understand how you setup a business structure that rewards failure and punishes successful franchises. I don't get it.

is this the 10th or 11th time we have had this thread in the last 5 months?

Oh I see --a Leaf fan who is now concerned that they wont be able to sign everyone cheaply

 

[New Jersey]

In seriousness OP just wants the Leafs to have a $250m payroll and buy the Cup every year because he's mad that small market teams are well-run and Toronto still can't win anything.

 

[King'sPawn]

The cap rewards good management instead of rich teams.

 

[TheSituation]

The salary cap has

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to do with parity.

The cap is there to control player salaries, end of story. A hard cap gives the owners an actual dollar figure each year that cannot be exceeded.

If you think that ANY owner will EVER give up that kind of cost control just because they're salty about losing a player every once in a while, you're fooling yourself.

My thoughts exactly. You think McDavid wouldn't get $15 mill+ if there wasn't a cap??? No NHL owner wants to be the next Portsmouth FC.

 

[Bonzo111]

The cap reflects real life. Money should not give you an advantage.

lol its the opposite of real life. But I like the cap

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

The cap reflects real life. Money should not give you an advantage.

That's a weird statement. What planet do you live on?

 

[Zalos]

I laughed when I saw the name of the OP.

 

[rubikscube]

leafs fans: pls stahp

stop embarrassing the good ones with repeated total abomination threads. you're feeding the never ending circle of leaf hate.

we have to MAKE HF GREAT AGAIN

 

[Matthews34]

Nashville and Winnipeg are successful and sellout their so they have no need for subsidies from other teams like Arizona, Carolina...and so on. If you can't sell the sport why should your failure be rewarded? Yes I am a Toronto Maple Leaf fan which is a successful franchisee and therefore should be rewarded. When did North America become a communist state?

 

[belair]

Since the salary cap was instituted we haven't seen a shift in power for small market teams to large market teams. What we see is cap manipulation with small market teams using the artificial cap hits to get to the cap floor so they can receive subsidies and large market teams dismantled because the hard cap but still winning cups like Chicago, Boston, LA and Pittsburg even Washington. The bottom feeders are still the bottom feeders. The perceived parity is due to the 3 point system not the cap system. I wish the NHL would go to a luxury tax system like MLB or NBA. The cap system in hockey is a socialist system and thumbs it's nose at capitalism. For life of me I don't understand how you setup a business structure that rewards failure and punishes successful franchises. I don't get it.

The salary cap is the reason why salaries haven't gone to insane numbers like in other professional sports. If there was no salary cap, smaller market teams would routinely lose their elite players looking to see a larger paycheque. The salary cap was implemented to not only assist the small market teams, but to promote competitiveness within the sport, which it inevitably has.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Yet when James organized his whole Miami excursion with 3 of his superstar friends, nobody batted an eye?

*2 of his superstar friends

And a lot of people "batted eyes" when that happened, and throughout it's duration.

 

[KingsFan7824]

The salary cap is simply about cost certainty. It doesn't stop any team from winning. If one(big market) team can manage to win 10 consecutive Cups, the NHL won't stop them from doing so. You would just have to be exceedingly smart and ruthless, while getting the absolute most value for any player you get rid of at the right time.

In terms of capitalist vs socialist; take it up with the PA or owners that accepted this system. If you don't like what they agreed to, vote with your money by not supporting a league that in your eyes punishes the successful.

 

[Sniperberg]

Nashville and Winnipeg are successful and sellout their so they have no need for subsidies from other teams like Arizona, Carolina...and so on. If you can't sell the sport why should your failure be rewarded? Yes I am a Toronto Maple Leaf fan which is a successful franchisee and therefore should be rewarded. When did North America become a communist state?

If you are such a successful franchise, then shouldnt the reward for that be winning the cup?

Oh, wait..

 

[Hammettf2b]

As a Wings fan who has seen his team buy a Cup before

But in all seriousness, there absolutely should be a cap.

 

[PsYcNeT]

Someone should petition the federal government to draft a "Thanks Ontario For 25% Of The Hockey Players Day" stat. I think June still needs one.

 

[Bonzo111]

the caps been great, I would just make it higher but its all good.

 

[CaptainCrunch67]

sure have a luxury tax of $25.00 for every dollar over the cap.

Then split the funds among the other teams.

 

[Matthews34]

Last time a I checked the NHL is a business and business are supposed to turn a profit unless you're Tesla therefore a successful business measured in revenue not championships. Do you think restaurant would last if it has a great AAA ranting but didn't turn a profit?

 

[Bonzo111]

sure have a luxury tax of $25.00 for every dollar over the cap.

Then split the funds among the other teams.

don't threaten me with a good time

 

[bukwas]

The cap reflects real life. Money should not give you an advantage.

In many situations it's a huge advantage, often to the point of being the only thing that matters.

 

[PsYcNeT]

Last time a I checked the NHL is a business and business are supposed to turn a profit unless you're Tesla therefore a successful business measured in revenue not championships. Do you think restaurant would last if it has a great AAA ranting but didn't turn a profit?

If you think Toronto being able to spend 150 million on a team would increase their profits, I have a bridge to sell you.

They were putrid for years and you crazy fans still flocked to games (in other cities even) bought merch and watched a terrible team.

Toronto doesn't need to spend money to make money. They just make money for ??? reasons.

 

[tucker3434]

Last time a I checked the NHL is a business and business are supposed to turn a profit unless you're Tesla therefore a successful business measured in revenue not championships. Do you think restaurant would last if it has a great AAA ranting but didn't turn a profit?

The NHL is a business, and profits have never been higher than right now. That’s because of the cap.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Nashville and Winnipeg are successful and sellout their so they have no need for subsidies from other teams like Arizona, Carolina...and so on. If you can't sell the sport why should your failure be rewarded? Yes I am a Toronto Maple Leaf fan which is a successful franchisee and therefore should be rewarded. When did North America become a communist state?

Each franchise isn't trying to put the others out of business. The Leafs aren't trying to acquire market share in Florida or Vancouver. They're not looking to buy out the Hurricanes, and put Leafs games on TV in Carolina, or even put another Toronto Maple Leafs franchise there(like you would with Target, or Wal-Mart, or Amazon, or whatever).

The Leafs are part of a collective of sorts, and need other teams in order to exist. They can't play against themselves once every other owner has been bought out. The 23 best players all in a Leafs jersey would be quite the sight, as they practice against themselves I guess?