Yeah, it's not all about points. Some guys can make a long NHL career by being physical.
Stewart can become that 4th line 10-points energy guy if he can keep up his game.
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Yeah, it's not all about points. Some guys can make a long NHL career by being physical.
Stewart can become that 4th line 10-points energy guy if he can keep up his game.
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There's basically no chance he'll get to 400 given that he's at 202 at age 31. He might even have trouble getting to 300 if his goal scoring falls off like it does for most players in their 30s.
But yeah, to be a 350-400 goal scorer you really need have a ridiculously long career, be a consistent 35 goal guy at your peak for several years, or be a Kane or Toews guy who can put up 25 goals for probably 15 years straight. Neither of those are remotely realistic projections for a guy who was picked 23rd 10 days ago. Maybe Boeser can be that once in a decade late 1st rounder but I certainly wouldn't bet on it.
Boeser is a much better scorer than Kesler at the same age.
And Kesler plays a game that makes him injury prone.
I`ll be disappointed if Boeser doesn`t hit at least 300 goals in his career.
Considering D. Sedin has 327, and his goal scoring pace has dropped significantly.
It`will be close either way.
I like Boeser a lot but 300 goals in the current NHL is a tough ask. You're basically asking for 15 seasons at 20 goals per. With injuries, rookie growth curve, and down years there are only a handful of players that will hit those career numbers at the current NHL scoring levels.
20 goals is a top 6 forward
25 is borderline first line
30 is a first liner/ all/star
35+ is a star
I think Boeser's upside is a Joffery Lupul type career, hopefully minus the injuries. Hit 30 goals once or twice, finish above 20 most seasons in his prime. That's a win for a top 10 pick let alone #23.
So far Benning's first round picks all have the potential to be 30 goal guys. Virtanen, McCann and Boeser all have hard, accurate shots.
Benning's mantra:
1) Rip the puck
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2) Physical
Just as a frame of reference in the history of the NHL 184 players have scored over 300 goals.
184.
If you are going to be disappointed if Boeser doesn't score 300 goals in his career prepare to be disappointed because that would be on hell of a career.
What is it...something like 6000 players to ever play in the NHL? So 300 goals is basically a top 3-5% goal scorer in the history of the league.
184.
If you are going to be disappointed if Boeser doesn't score 300 goals in his career prepare to be disappointed because that would be on hell of a career.
What is it...something like 6000 players to ever play in the NHL? So 300 goals is basically a top 3-5% goal scorer in the history of the league.
I really doubt that 'it will be close either way'...
You're expecting Boeser to be a top-5 scorer in terms of the Canucks draft history.
That's an insane expectation on a late 1st round pick.
Players in this draft that you could expect 300 goal careers from: McDavid, Eichel, maybe Marner. That's about it.
From 2000-2010, there are 2-3 players in each draft that are set to reach that marker (and mostly from top 5 picks).
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honestly, the way we retire numbers, that's probably easier than scoring 300 NHL goals.
Too bad it will take too long, would I like to come back to this thread when he hits 300.
If he doesn't I come back and eat crow.
I don't think anyone is taking issue with the suggestion that he *could* reach that lofty total - odds are against it but hey, some picks will do it - so much as the notion that anyone would be *disappointed* if he didn't reach it.
It depends on much you see out of each prospect.
I have loftier goals for Boeser because I see the talent and ability.
Rather than only looking at draft position, (which is trivial to actual performance), I look at skillset and ability.
Most of the counter arguments center around "well it hasn't happened much", or "but he's a late 1st".
Boeser has an elite release and shot. More importantly his hockey sense to get open is very good.
Radim Vrbata has almost 250 goals and spent time in Europe. 7th rounder.
I see Boeser with as much scoring ability but a bigger frame and more willingness to play in traffic.
"Rip the puck" should be the new "meat and potatoes." JB even used the term "rip the puck" when I spoke with him yesterday.
Again, it's great that you think Boeser can reach such lofty heights. But I don't agree that anyone should be "disappointed" if he doesn't reach that total. Besides it's an odd type of standard to set - 300 career goals - as it glosses over so many other parts of the game beyond just goals.
But in the end they are your expectations so I guess there's no point in trying to change them. I like Boeser a lot myself but I'm more interested to follow him for the next couple of years before setting such specific expectations.
300 goals?
That's 15 twenty goal seasons or 10 thirty goal seasons!
I'd be happy with a top 6 guy who can play there for a while.
That's 15 twenty goal seasons or 10 thirty goal seasons!
I'd be happy with a top 6 guy who can play there for a while.
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If Boeser tops 300 goals in his career with the Canucks he will have his jersey retired by the team.
Patrick Sharp is gonna finish his career with 300+ goals. I don't think it's an outrageous projection but it's an outrageous expectation.
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Don't confuse the hate with the pick for hate with the player. I doubt anyone here is actively cheering against any of our prospects. It is more about the thought process for the draft choice and subsequent signing: draft a low producing, yet athletic kid, and try to mold him into a player. It's not a strategy with many proven results for the NHL. Nobody is cheering for him to fail just to prove a point. I'm sure everyone would love to be wrong about Stewart.
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Many who trashed Benning for using a 7th pick on Stewart have already assured us he will be an ECHL player at best. Hearing nothing but positives about this kid, could be a classic late bloomer. I can see him making the AHL this year.
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