Prospect Info: The Prospect Thread Part - XXVII

[GetFocht]

Anton Rodin would be an amazing addition, his skating his superb

 

[Skriko]

Rödin is injured. He injured his shoulder against Czech in Karjala-tournament. I don't know how long his injury is. His shoulder injuries worries, otherwise he is an interesting player.

 

[Verviticus]

It's not even 'unlikely'.

It's what absolutely 100% should be happening next year. If he can't come in and be a starter in the AHL at that age, it would be a huge disappointment.

Same way similarly-rated guys like Jon Gillies and Connor Hellebucyk came out of college at the same age and were instantly AHL starters.

i cant wait for him to lose his first game and three pages of WOAH CALM DOWN, PLEASE, DONT OVER-REACT, JUST HAVE PATIENCE posts flood every thread

 

[Tiranis]

Rödin is injured. He injured his shoulder against Czech in Karjala-tournament. I don't know how long his injury is. His shoulder injuries worries, otherwise he is an interesting player.

Last I read it was his collarbone and he was going to miss a week or two tops. (Then again, Google Translate... sometimes it just sounds like gibberish. )

 

[PM]

i cant wait for him to lose his first game and three pages of WOAH CALM DOWN, PLEASE, DONT OVER-REACT, JUST HAVE PATIENCE posts flood every thread

I remember when Schneider lost his first NHL start (it was actually one of the 5 Canucks games I've been to live) he played pretty well though which is really what counts.

No one can possibly have a worse first game for us than Markstrom against the Sharks.

 

[Askel]

Last I read it was his collarbone and he was going to miss a week or two tops. (Then again, Google Translate... sometimes it just sounds like gibberish. )

Its a bruised collarbone, according to swedish media hell be back when the SHL resumes after the Karjala

 

[Verviticus]

People need to temper their expectations. Doing well in the NCAA or AHL has absolutely no correlation to being a good goalie in the NHL.

do you know what correlation means?

 

[WonderTwinsUnite]

do you know what correlation means?

I correlate not. (That's the correct way to use it, right?)

 

[logan5]

Hutton is not the exception.

Believe it or not the difficulty of the leagues are not that different.

http://www.behindthenet.ca/projecting_to_nhl.php

Hard to believe that the AHL is supposedly on par with the Swiss league.

When they do the NCAA rankings, does this include division 3 teams? I presume division 1 is much stronger. If div. 1 is judged on its own, maybe it would actually score a higher difficulty than the AHL on this chart.

 

[WTG]

Hard to believe that the AHL is supposedly on par with the Swiss league.

When they do the NCAA rankings, does this include division 3 teams? I presume division 1 is much stronger. If div. 1 is judged on its own, maybe it would actually score a higher difficulty than the AHL on this chart.

It's division 1 only, I'm pretty sure.

 

[Southern_Canuck]

Tue Nov 10

ECHL

Manchester 7 Kalamazoo 3
Blomstrand 0 points, -3
Cederholm 0 points, even
Fox 1 assist, -2

OHL

Mississauga 2 Erie 5
Pettit 1 goal (3rd), +1

S_C

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Hard to believe that the AHL is supposedly on par with the Swiss league.

When they do the NCAA rankings, does this include division 3 teams? I presume division 1 is much stronger. If div. 1 is judged on its own, maybe it would actually score a higher difficulty than the AHL on this chart.

They couldn't even get the European countries right. Not even close. European Champions League is a lot closer to proving something than a random formula invented by 'math guys'.

Anybody who wants to see some actual results could start here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014–15_Champions_Hockey_League

To sum it up briefly: They started with 44 teams from 11 leagues, by the time they got to the round of 8 there were
4 Swedish teams and 4 Finnish teams left.

If they're that far off on Europe, why should anyone trust their calculations for leagues that are even harder to quantify/compare?

 

[ChilliBilly]

They couldn't even get the European countries right. Not even close. European Champions League is a lot closer to proving something than a random formula invented by 'math guys'.

Anybody who wants to see some actual results could start here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014–15_Champions_Hockey_League

To sum it up briefly: They started with 44 teams from 11 leagues, by the time they got to the round of 8 there were
4 Swedish teams and 4 Finnish teams left.

If they're that far off on Europe, why should anyone trust their calculations for leagues that are even harder to quantify/compare?

Great post. Nice to see this sort of info ...

 

[polarbearcub]

Can tryamkin come to play in the ahl?

 

[Verviticus]

They couldn't even get the European countries right. Not even close. European Champions League is a lot closer to proving something than a random formula invented by 'math guys'.

Anybody who wants to see some actual results could start here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014–15_Champions_Hockey_League

To sum it up briefly: They started with 44 teams from 11 leagues, by the time they got to the round of 8 there were
4 Swedish teams and 4 Finnish teams left.

If they're that far off on Europe, why should anyone trust their calculations for leagues that are even harder to quantify/compare?

tournaments are not a good source of info for this kind of thing

 

[iceburg]

Can tryamkin come to play in the ahl?

Yes. I'm pretty sure he'd be waiver exempt for 3 years. The question is would he? He's currently making more money in a better league in his home country....

 

[Andy Dufresne]

tournaments are not a good source of info for this kind of thing

Compared to what? The ppg of individual players who happened to move from one league to another league in consecutive years? That's Behind the Net's formula. I think i'll trust actual game results myself. Even if they are tournament games.

PS. This year's final 8 is:
4 Finnish teams, 3 Swedish teams, and a Swiss team. I think there may be a trend developing......

 

[Bgav]

Broken collarbone for Rodin

 

[arttk]

Broken collarbone for Rodin

At least not the shoulder.

 

[VanJack]

What's the story on Carl Neill?....6'3" 210 pound d-man on a ppg pace in the Q....realize he's an older prospect at 19, but judging from the scoring stats he's more more than just a stay-at-home banger in his own zone....what's his upside?..didn't notice him that much at the Prospects Tournament.

 

[orcatown]

Broken collarbone for Rodin

Well that put out that fire pretty fast

 

[VanJack]

Kind of surprised to hear that Jimbo was going to over to scout him anyway before making a decision....don't the 'Nucks have a plethora of European scouts reporting out on SHL and KHL games?....wondering if coming off injury, it might actually be easier to sign him rather than have him finish his season with his club team...could make a great addition to the 'Nucks forward corp down the stretch and at least he'd be fresh.

 

[Askel]

Broken collarbone for Rodin

Where did you read this?

 

[Askel]

Everything in Swedish media says he has pain in his collar bone, but that it aint broken, weird

http://www.dalademokraten.se/sport/i...at-nyckelbenet

– Han har skadat en del av nyckelbenet men han har inte brutit det. Men han har jäkligt ont. Tyvärr kan Anton inte spela mer i den här turneringen. (From the Article)

Translation:
- He has injured his collarbone but not broken it, bur he´s in a lot of pain. Unfortunatly Anton can't play more in this tournament (Karjala Cup).

 

[Bgav]

@ScottRintoul: Per @vancanucks GM Jim Benning, Anton Rodin has a broken collarbone... He'll go watch him overseas, but that plan's on hold #Canuckson1040