The Official Pierre "high five" Dorion Thread | Part III

[BonkTastic]

Pretty sure that Chabot didn't get any ice time because your hero Pierre Dorion decided to bring in Johnny Oduya instead.

Well... It was probably more due to the fact that Chabot was a 20 year old rookie defenceman in his first ever year of pro hockey and had a lot to learn very quickly... But sure, let's blame Oduya?

 

[BatherSeason]

Well... It was probably more due to the fact that Chabot was a 20 year old rookie defenceman in his first ever year of pro hockey and had a lot to learn very quickly... But sure, let's blame Oduya?

Am I blaming Oduya? I am blaming Dorion for bringing in Oduya, but keep giving Dorion high fives now..

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

When we blame Melnyk for all Dorion's bad decisions and his spewing of bs and his treating the fan base like a bunch of kindergarten kids, should we not give Melnyk the credit if things go well even if we should not be planning any celebrations for achievements quite yet. Boucher who we faulted a lot last year does deserve some credit.

 

[HSF]

The EK trade is looking fantastic. If the results were reversed this early in the year PD would already have been buried. So, lets already give him some credit in coming up two instant impact players under horrible circumstances. Plus another previous first rounder playing in college, and a future first and second rounder to come at the very least. Loving the culture shift.

The Sens are a bubble team Rn how does that deserve kudos so early. We have a long way to go

 

[NyQuil]

The EK trade is looking fantastic. If the results were reversed this early in the year PD would already have been buried. So, lets already give him some credit in coming up two instant impact players under horrible circumstances. Plus another previous first rounder playing in college, and a future first and second rounder to come at the very least. Loving the culture shift.

I'm pleased with the results 6 games into the season.

That's as much as you're going to get out of me.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Even worse is he has the balls to come on tsn 1200 today and say that he hopes people come to the Game? Really? I thought no one was mad at you? I thought it was just a 'vocal minority'

Enough with being 'pesky' ... Being pesky is not good cause it means you are expected to be weak and u overachieve. That's not how you win a cup

October 15, 2018, 7:30 PM
Attendance: 12,358
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Not terrible, considering there were the options of a MLB CS game, and a MNF game, for people to stay at home and watch instead.

About a year ago, on Tuesday October 17, 2017, the Sens vs Canucks game drew 13,430

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

The EK trade is looking fantastic. If the results were reversed this early in the year PD would already have been buried. So, lets already give him some credit in coming up two instant impact players under horrible circumstances. Plus another previous first rounder playing in college, and a future first and second rounder to come at the very least. Loving the culture shift.

All for what will turn out to be for a rental.

 

[NorthCoast]

When we blame Melnyk for all Dorion's bad decisions and his spewing of bs and his treating the fan base like a bunch of kindergarten kids, should we not give Melnyk the credit if things go well even if we should not be planning any celebrations for achievements quite yet. Boucher who we faulted a lot last year does deserve some credit.

Boucher I can give credit too. Whether it's all his doing, or there was pressure from above...changing style, working with the kids, getting some wins, it takes a lot of hard work and credit to him if he can maximise the positive on the ice.

Dorion I can only give credit to our drafting. The pipeline has always been pretty strong and he should get a lot for credit for that. I don't give him credit if the team wins a few games of even if it makes the playoffs. I have seen playoffs before. I want to see (through actions) the organisation actually following a plan and trying to build the team back-up properly. Until I see multiple seasons of progress I will be dubious about PDs ability to rebuild the team.

Melnyk I give no credit to. Cutting costs doesn't require any bravery.


Regardless, 31st in shots on goals is going to result in some ugly loses eventually.

 

[swiftwin]

Have a look at where this team was at after 6 games last year.

I'm crossing my fingers that nobody starts to cyberbully Chabot.

 

[BonkTastic]

but keep giving Dorion high fives now..

What could possibly lead you to believe, based on the post you responded to or literally any post I have made in the last 6 months, that I was in any way whatsoever giving credit to Pierre Dorion for anything even remotely close to this?

What are you even talking about here?

 

[Egg]

Regardless, 31st in shots on goals is going to result in some ugly loses eventually.

Not if those shots are kept to the perimeter.

Shots don't tell the full picture. Looking where most shots are taken, are.

Contain the where, and Anderson stops those all day. Hes at his best facing heavy volumes of shots.

Much harder to stay focused, being a guy like Brodeur in his prime, getting as little as 10 shots in an entire game with his suffocatingly efficient defense.

 

[BatherSeason]

Contain the where, and Anderson stops those all day. Hes at his best facing heavy volumes of shots.

How do you explain last season then? Seems to me, a lot of goals went in from places they shouldn't have with both of our goalies last year, and let's be honest here, Andy has only been good the past couple of games, he was pretty leaky in the other games he played. But, we can just blame those on EK, that's what the media and some fans seem to be doing.

 

[Engineer]

ok

 

[Icelevel]

I ease up on my hate on Dorion foot pedal for a bit.
The decisions and trades are still somewhat baffling but overall we should be fine.
Would love it if he could make sense when he speaks and started making good trades.

 

[NyQuil]

Sens also have the highest shooting percentage in the league at 13% which is in no way sustainable.

We need to see those shot numbers go up and those shot against numbers come down.

 

[coladin]

Am I blaming Oduya? I am blaming Dorion for bringing in Oduya, but keep giving Dorion high fives now..

You cannot feed a baby a steak. You care so much about Chabot's development, that , sure, let's throw him out there as a raw rookie. You can say Oduya may have been the wrong choice, but to say Chabot should have been given all those minutes is a terrible idea.

 

[stempniaksen]

You cannot feed a baby a steak. You care so much about Chabot's development, that , sure, let's throw him out there as a raw rookie. You can say Oduya may have been the wrong choice, but to say Chabot should have been given all those minutes is a terrible idea.

He never said Chabot should get all those minutes. Obviously with the power of hindsight it's easy to see that the Oduya signing was an unmitigated failure and that Chabot was ready for NHL action last season.

We've seen whats trusting the kids has brought us this season, we're just a year too late is all.

 

[BatherSeason]

You cannot feed a baby a steak. You care so much about Chabot's development, that , sure, let's throw him out there as a raw rookie. You can say Oduya may have been the wrong choice, but to say Chabot should have been given all those minutes is a terrible idea.

Max Lajoie certainty wasn't forced to "eat any steak". Too bad this GM and coach didn't figure out this "playing the kids" aspect a little sooner.

 

[swiftwin]

Max Lajoie certainty wasn't forced to "eat any steak". Too bad this GM and coach didn't figure out this "playing the kids" aspect a little sooner.

Lajoie is in his 2nd year pro. Chabot was in his first year pro last season.

 

[BonkTastic]

Max Lajoie certainty wasn't forced to "eat any steak".

Lajoie spent an entire year in the AHL in his first pro season.

 

[Filatov2Kovalev2Bonk]

October 15, 2018, 7:30 PM
Attendance: 12,358
​

Not terrible, considering there were the options of a MLB CS game, and a MNF game, for people to stay at home and watch instead.

About a year ago, on Tuesday October 17, 2017, the Sens vs Canucks game drew 13,430

Also Leafs and Habs were on TV so you're not getting the casual other-team fans to help out with ticket sales.
Dorion should get someone to speak for him, business-like. This has been missing for the longest time.
No humour, just dry statements couched in maybes with no guarantees of anything. Safe, political talk on hockey.
Then, if things go wrong just shrug and point to randomness and so on.
Comms Officers can be had for 80-100K, just pony up and look better afterwards.

 

[BankStreetParade]

Sens also have the highest shooting percentage in the league at 13% which is in no way sustainable.

I don't know...they've scored a lot of their goals from right around the net and anything from further out has had a ton of screens involved. That to me is more indicative of a team that's efficient offensively rather than "lucky", so to say.

 

[stempniaksen]

I don't know...they've scored a lot of their goals from right around the net and anything from further out has had a ton of screens involved. That to me is more indicative of a team that's efficient offensively rather than "lucky", so to say.

I get where you're coming from, and you're not entirely wrong either. That being said, you'd have to expect the scoring pace of some of (most of?) our guys to come down a bit here.

I mean, there's no way that guys like Tierney, Tkachuk, Chabot and Lajoie will continue to go (anywhere near) PPG. There's going to be a scoring regression and if we don't make defensive adjustments it's going to bite us in the rear.

 

[coladin]

He never said Chabot should get all those minutes. Obviously with the power of hindsight it's easy to see that the Oduya signing was an unmitigated failure and that Chabot was ready for NHL action last season.

We've seen whats trusting the kids has brought us this season, we're just a year too late is all.

He actually did. Blaming Chabot's lack of minutes due to Oduya being around.

Trusting kids has nothing to do with it

 

[coladin]

Max Lajoie certainty wasn't forced to "eat any steak". Too bad this GM and coach didn't figure out this "playing the kids" aspect a little sooner.

It is the "right" kid. Just because you are a kid doesn't automatically mean you get to play. You have to be good. Show something.