The Official 2021 Baseball Hall of Fame thread with poll (no one elected)

[BKIslandersFan]

Latroy Hawkins got a vote lol.

Baseball writers are as a whole, complete wastes of perfectly good oxygen. They are parasites to society.

 

[Blitzkrug]

How about we take him off all future ballots? There's a difference between being a "patriot" and advocating for the collapse of your country's democracy to fill whatever whack ass agenda you have.

To further my point about Ortiz;

I can see the shitstorm coming already.

 

[Cas]

Latroy Hawkins got a vote lol.

Hawkins got two votes.

I'm not really annoyed by those - its not like they actually cost anyone election (or a second chance). Hawkins clearly doesn't deserve it, but whatever.

 

[Terry Yake]

schilling is a terrible human being but he still deserves to get in. no problem with making him wait though, and i hope bonds and clemens get in before he does

just please don't elect vizquel. that guy should not be in the HOF ever

 

[Terry Yake]

How about we take him off all future ballots? There's a difference between being a "patriot" and advocating for the collapse of your country's democracy to fill whatever whack ass agenda you have.

To further my point about Ortiz;

I can see the shitstorm coming already.

all of those guys are HOF worthy

but the writers, being the absolute clowns they are, will induct ortiz first ballot and continue to leave out bonds and clemens (and probably a-rod)

 

[Blitzkrug]

This is one time where i'm happy with the character clause actually being used.

It would have been different if Schilling got in after it became apparent he was an asshole. I wouldn't be in favor of removing him in that case since he 'd be in already. (See; Simpson, OJ in the case of the pro football hall of fame)

Screw him. Take him off the ballot and make sure his plaque never sees the walls of Cooperstown as long as he lives.

 

[Blitzkrug]

all of those guys are HOF worthy

but the writers, being the absolute clowns they are, will induct ortiz first ballot and continue to leave out bonds and clemens (and probably a-rod)

I don't think anyone disagrees with you on their worthiness. I was more referring to the fact the ballot for next year sets up major potential for more voter stupidity and hypocrisy.

If they vote either Ortiz and A-Rod in on the first ballot when both guys are admitted juicers yet keep Bonds and Clemens out for years...i don't even know what to do but point at laugh at them

 

[darko]

Problem with Schilling situation is that there are worse people in HOF already.

 

[BKIslandersFan]

Problem with Schilling situation is that there are worse people in HOF already.

Correct.

Unless those people are removed, character clause is absolute bollocks.

 

[Cas]

just please don't elect vizquel. that guy should not be in the HOF ever

Just among non-HOF shortstops with long careers, good defense, good baserunning, and minimal hitting, I'd rather elect Campaneris or Concepcion, and I wouldn't vote for either anyway.

I'm not sure Vizquel is among the ten most deserving shortstops outside the Hall. Possibly not even the twenty most.

 

[Cas]

Problem with Schilling situation is that there are worse people in HOF already.

Sure, but that's not much of an argument. You don't have to compound the problem.

If they elected every player who was better than Tommy McCarthy, they'd have to build a new town to hold the plaque room.

 

[Terry Yake]

I don't think anyone disagrees with you on their worthiness. I was more referring to the fact the ballot for next year sets up major potential for more voter stupidity and hypocrisy.

If they vote either Ortiz and A-Rod in on the first ballot when both guys are admitted juicers yet keep Bonds and Clemens out for years...i don't even know what to do but point at laugh at them

and we all know ortiz will get in first ballot, while clemens/bonds will likely have to keep waiting

i mean, there are already guys who juiced in the hall and have been there for years. the longer they keep those two out, the bigger joke the BBHOF becomes

 

[Say Hey Kid]

Yeah, more WAR than Joe DiMaggio and Brooks Robinson is not enough for a pitcher to get in the Hall of Fame.

 

[Blitzkrug]

With all the (rightful) bitching about Clemens and Bonds and the integrity of the hall of fame have me wondering if that's even a legit argument at this point

Some would argue the hall of fame's integrity was already damaged when they let Harold Baines, and Jack Morris, a guy who literally made a career off of one ****ing game in because the modern era committee gets their rocks off to shitty counting stats that don't really make a player legendary.

Looking at ERA is fine and i imagine innings pitched might become more important as the days of workhorses pitching 7 or 8 inning gems seem to be over but shit like wins and RBI mean jackshit.

 

[Terry Yake]

With all the (rightful) bitching about Clemens and Bonds and the integrity of the hall of fame have me wondering if that's even a legit argument at this point

Some would argue the hall of fame's integrity was already damaged when they let Harold Baines, and Jack Morris, a guy who literally made a career off of one ****ing game in because the modern era committee gets their rocks off to shitty counting stats that don't really make a player legendary.

Looking at ERA is fine and i imagine innings pitched might become more important as the days of workhorses pitching 7 or 8 inning gems seem to be over but shit like wins and RBI mean jackshit.

yeah, baines and morris getting in was really the cherry on top

still can't believe that shit

 

[BKIslandersFan]

yeah, baines and morris getting in was really the cherry on top

still can't believe that shit

Baines as I understood it, was Reinsdorf politcking his friend in to the HOF.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Love how his twitter handle is a dig at himself too lol

 

[EpochLink]

yeah, baines and morris getting in was really the cherry on top

still can't believe that shit

I still can’t believe the Baines induction.
I was like WTF? Harold Baines?

 

[Del Preston]

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Man, there are a lot of assholes on that list.

 

[darko]

Sure, but that's not much of an argument. You don't have to compound the problem.

If they elected every player who was better than Tommy McCarthy, they'd have to build a new town to hold the plaque room.

Sets a precedent. What Schilling did, is it worse than being a KKK member? Because there are several in there.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Writers show again why they need to be removed from voting on HOF

At this point the HOF has no integrity or value anymore because of the writers

 

[bambamcam4ever]

With Bonds even if you were to go back to 97/98 he was a HOFer by that stage.

He was the best player of the 90s while clean in a roided-up league. He started taking the juice and turned into the god of baseball

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

He was the best player of the 90s while clean in a roided-up league. He started taking the juice and turned into the god of baseball

Frank Thomas was best player of 90's before explosion of PED use and was only ML player to advocate for drug testing

 

[BKIslandersFan]

He was the best player of the 90s while clean in a roided-up league. He started taking the juice and turned into the god of baseball

At this point, its completely irrelevant when Bonds started juicing.

They put Selig in. Every one who roided, that has the stats, should be in.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Frank Thomas was best player of 90's before explosion of PED use and was only ML player to advocate for drug testing

Frank Thomas peddles fake boner pills nowadays. Don't tell me he was above juicing.