My point was that if insurance companies are paying it, not the owners, how is it cutting into the player share of HRR?Your reply has nothing to do with my argument. Let me go through this again....
Some things like LTIR are excepted from counting against the salary cap. This is why a situation like the OP presents can happen in the first place.
However, in a normal year (when the PA and the BOG are not trying to mitigate the issues of an entire year with no fans), the CBA dictates that 50% of HRR goes to the players in salaries. LTIR counts in this calculation.
The effect of this is that, if TB exceeds the usual salary cap via use of LTIR, then the amount of HRR which is being paid to the players goes up (again, this is a separate calculation that the salary cap entirely), and therefore, escrow increases.
The players should hate this. The fact that they don't shows that PA leadership is dysfunctional.
players arent paid for the playoffs. So I guess its because all the money was already earned and paidout.I dont blame Toronto or TB.
But i do think this loophole needs to be closed
To be honest i dont really understand why this havent happenend before. I dont see a single reason why playoffs shouldnt have a cap
My point was that if insurance companies are paying it, not the owners, how is it cutting into the player share of HRR?
I'd just audit injuries; what Toronto and Tampa is doing that's iffy is extending the LTIR time of Andersen and Kucherov when they might be able to come back earlier.
Heck, allow other teams to request an audit as a way to deal with the misincentives
A bigger problem is the salary cap. We are not communists.Simply put, Cap Circumvention via LTIR
Teams like Tampa Bay and Toronto are using LTIR to bolster their rosters for the playoffs.
Kucherov being out the entire season, giving the Lightning $10.5M in extra cap relief throughout the season. But as soon as the playoffs come around, he can be activated off LTIR without a hiccup and Tampa will be playing in the playoffs with a roster that could have a cap hit north of $95M.
Toronto acquired Riley Nash from Columbus and it won’t count for a cent on their cap since he’s on LTIR and won’t be activated until the playoffs where there is no salary cap.
The Salary cap was created to give smaller market teams a fighting chance against the larger spending, big markets of the NHL. But with this LTIR loophole, it allows teams like Toronto and Tampa Bay extra cap space since in the playoffs, there is no salary cap.
There is a simple solution to this problem, have a salary cap in the playoffs. it would completely negate this loophole.
I 100% agree. The cap should remain in effect for the entire year. Why it dissapears for the playoffs is beyond me and makes no sense.
Make a taxi squad for the playoffs, bring up, send down players as needed, use IR/LTIR if need be, just needs to be in the confines of the salary cap.Because roster sizes increase after the deadline/season. Teams carry extra players in case of injury. Definitely a #3 goalie. At least 8D, and up to 14-16 forwards, especially if the AHL season is done.
The game management by refs is the biggest issue with nhl.
I always love how people think players are ok just sitting on the sideline after their injury is recovered to help their team stay cap compliantThe players who pour their blood, sweat and tears into this game would probably prefer to not be hurt for an entire season. This isn’t circumvention
Yea, they can.All teams can use this "loop hole". TB is the 21st most valuable team according to Forbes with a 470 million dollar valuation.
It is already in the confines of the salary cap.Make a taxi squad for the playoffs, bring up, send down players as needed, use IR/LTIR if need be, just needs to be in the confines of the salary cap.
Cost certainty for owners isn't communism, that is excessively hyperbolic.A bigger problem is the salary cap. We are not communists.
Oh sorry facisim.Cost certainty for owners isn't communism, that is excessively hyperbolic.
same reason teams gain cap space around trade deadline. because cap hit is based off regular season. they are not paid for playoffs. unless a cap is put in place for playoffs and the players are paid. what can they do?I 100% agree. The cap should remain in effect for the entire year. Why it dissapears for the playoffs is beyond me and makes no sense.
A bigger problem is the salary cap. We are not communists.
This gets better with every post.Oh sorry facisim.
The Leafs [and all the other big-market teams] consented to "funding 'have not' teams via revenue sharing."The Leafs have been funding "have not" teams via revenue sharing.
Excuse me while I don't care if the Leafs wield there financial might in any way they can.
Yeah " cost certainty" lolThis gets better with every post.
And by "better" I mean "a fantastic illustration of lobbing words without any clue what they really mean."