Prospect Info: The Nascent 2020 Draft Thread

[nafrelio]

So if the season were ended now with no playoffs and if the draft order was based on points per game %, we would (apparently) draft 20th. Who is available at 20?

 

[Zaddy]

Guessing the draft is going to be done online/through phone at this rate. Sucks for the guys getting drafted this year, to miss out on that once-in-a-lifetime experience.

 

[Soli]

Things that only I think about...

Bakersfield is going to be hurting next year for bodies and talent. What's the chances a guy like Dylan Holloway goes back to a ransacked Wisconsin program? With the exodus of Turcotte and Miller, with possibly Caufield following suit, is it conceivable that Holloway gets drafted and goes to the AHL?

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I'm kinda thinking about starting the Mock Draft early...

 

[Reginald Dunlop]

Early mock draft would be good entertainment waiting for hockey to come back. I'd be in for sure!

 

[Llamamoto]

Early mock draft would be good entertainment waiting for Hickey to come back. I'd be in for sure!

Agreed. I miss hickey as well.

 

[Reginald Dunlop]

Agreed. I miss hickey as well.

Touche.

 

[Draiskull]

So if the season were ended now with no playoffs and if the draft order was based on points per game %, we would (apparently) draft 20th. Who is available at 20?

Jarvis, Zary or Askarov (falling) for me

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

So if the season were ended now with no playoffs and if the draft order was based on points per game %, we would (apparently) draft 20th. Who is available at 20?

I'd be very happy if one of Quinn, Mysak, Gunler, Mercer, Zary, or Jarvis fell to us.

Edit: Perrault, Foerster, Amirov, and others are also potential picks. So many forwards in our range.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

His list of top-15 best shooters (bolded are guys in around our range that could potentially be good picks).

15. Marco Rossi
14. Yegor Sokolov
13. Anton Lundell
12. Tyson Foerster
11. Lukas Reichel
10. Thomas Bordeleau
9. Seth Jarvis
8. Noel Gunler
7. Quinton Byfield
6. Cole Perfetti
5. Jeremie Poirier
4. Jacob Perrault
3. Alexis Lafreniere
2. Alexander Holtz
1. Jack Quinn (nice to see my guy getting some love )

He mentions that Tyson Foerster, Jacob Perrault, Jack Quinn, and Alexander Holtz are the best snipers on the PP. All are right-shots that play the left-half wall, and apart from Alexander Holtz, are all in our range.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

@McDNicks17 what didn't you like about Jacob Perrault again? How would you compare Quinn, Foerster, and Perrault, and do you think they would be good picks where we're drafting?

Oh, and also, what are your thoughts on Quinton Byfield? Whenever I watch him — a few OHL games, CHL Top Prospect Game, and a bunch of international games — and he never seems to drive the play. Have I just caught all of his bad games?

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Anyone know anything about Mavrik Bourque? He's yet another forward ranked in our range.

 

[McDNicks17]

@McDNicks17 what didn't you like about Jacob Perrault again? How would you compare Quinn, Foerster, and Perrault, and do you think they would be good picks where we're drafting?

Oh, and also, what are your thoughts on Quinton Byfield? Whenever I watch him — a few OHL games, CHL Top Prospect Game, and a bunch of international games — and he never seems to drive the play. Have I just caught all of his bad games?

I don't think Perrault's game is going to translate that well. He doesn't have the best hockey sense and hasn't really figured out how to use his speed at 5 on 5. He's kind of the poor man's version of Quinn and Foerster to me. He's got the skating and shot to do what Quinn does, but he can't do it consistently and he's got that pure sniper shot like Foerster, but he doesn't get open as much and doesn't have the shot selection Foerster has.

I wouldn't be against taking Perrault, but I'd probably be looking at the other skill forwards in that range first.


And yeah, Byfield's game is kind of quiet for someone that highly touted. He kind of just goes about his business for most of the game and then he'll have a shift where he holds the puck for a minute in the offensive zone and dunks on someone. I think a lot of his value just comes from projecting him at the next level. That size, skill and skating package is so rare. He'll need to kick his motor up a gear and get more consistent to really live up to that draft position.

 

[McDNicks17]

2019-20 OHL Coaches Poll Winners – Ontario Hockey League

Lots of draft eligibles in there.

Most Underrated Player:
Eastern Conference:
1. Luke Moncada, North Bay Battalion (28)
2. James Hardie, Mississauga Steelheads (22)
T-3. Austen Keating, Ottawa 67’s (15)
T-3. Kyle MacLean, Oshawa Generals (15)
Western Conference:
1. Chad Yetman, Erie Otters (33)
2. Connor Corcoran, Windsor Spitfires (20)
3. Eric Uba, Guelph Storm (11)

Most Improved Player:
Eastern Conference:
1. Jack Quinn, Ottawa 67’s (29)
2. Tyson Foerster, Barrie Colts (28)
3. Zayde Wisdom, Kingston Frontenacs (16)
Western Conference:
1. Nico Daws, Guelph Storm (45)
2. Tyler Angle, Windsor Spitfires (19)
3. Luke Evangelista, London Knights (16)

Smartest Player:
Eastern Conference:
1. Marco Rossi, Ottawa 67’s (41) – finished first in 2018-19
2. Shane Wright, Kingston Frontenacs (17)
3. Akil Thomas, Peterborough Petes (10)
Western Conference:
1. Cole Perfetti, Saginaw Spirit (31)
2. Jamie Drysdale, Erie Otters (27)
3. Connor McMichael, London Knights (22)

Hardest Worker:
Eastern Conference:
1. Keean Washkurak, Mississauga Steelheads (24) – finished first in 2018-19
2. Nick Robertson, Peterborough Petes (19)
3. Kyle MacLean, Oshawa Generals (15) – finished second in 2018-19
Western Conference:
1. Damien Giroux, Saginaw Spirit (37)
2. Luke Boka, Windsor Spitfires (22)
3. Vladislav Kolyachonok, Flint Firebirds (11)

Best Playmaker:
Eastern Conference:
1. Marco Rossi, Ottawa 67’s (45)
2. Semyon Der-Arguchintsev, Peterborough Petes (17)
3. Philip Tomasino, Oshawa Generals (16)
Western Conference:
1. Cole Perfetti, Saginaw Spirit (40)
2. Ryan Merkley, London Knights (22)
3. Cam Hillis, Guelph Storm (15)

Most Dangerous in Goal Area:
Eastern Conference:
1. Nick Robertson, Peterborough Petes (36)
2. Arthur Kaliyev, Hamilton Bulldogs (27) – finished second in 2018-19
3. Jack Quinn, Ottawa 67’s (21)
Western Conference:
1. Connor McMichael, London Knights (36)
2. Pavel Gogolev, Guelph Storm (35)
3. Jonathan Yantsis, Kitchener Rangers (7) – finished third in 2018-19

Best Skater:
Eastern Conference:
1. Thomas Harley, Mississauga Steelheads (30) – finished second in 2018-19
2. Brett Neumann, Oshawa Generals (19) – finished first in 2018-19
3. Declan Chisholm, Peterborough Petes (16)
Western Conference:
1. Liam Foudy, London Knights (35)
2. Jamie Drysdale, Erie Otters (28) – finished tied for third in 2018-19
3. Jean-Luc Foudy, Windsor Spitfires (18) – finished tied for third in 2018-19

Best Shot:
Eastern Conference:
1. Nick Robertson, Peterborough Petes (38)
2. Arthur Kaliyev, Hamilton Bulldogs (25) – finished first in 2018-19
3. Jack Quinn, Ottawa 67’s (18)
Western Conference:
1. Connor McMichael, London Knights (39)
2. Pavel Gogolev, Guelph Storm (31)
3. Jacob Perreault, Sarnia Sting (15)

Hardest Shot:
Eastern Conference:
1. Noel Hoefenmayer, Ottawa 67’s (41)
2. Arthur Kaliyev, Hamilton Bulldogs (24) – finished first in 2018-19
3. Nick Robertson, Peterborough Petes (13)
Western Conference:
1. Brady Lyle, Owen Sound Attack (35)
2. Bode Wilde, Saginaw Spirit (22)
3. Connor Corcoran, Windsor Spitfires (14)

Best Stickhandler:
Eastern Conference:
1. Joseph Garreffa, Ottawa 67’s (35) – finished second in Western Conference in 2018-19
2. Nick Robertson, Peterborough Petes (17) – finished first in 2018-19
3. Philip Tomasino, Oshawa Generals (16)
Western Conference:
1. Cole Perfetti, Saginaw Spirit (31)
2. Evgeniy Oksentyuk, Flint Firebirds (24)
3. Aidan Dudas, Owen Sound Attack (15)

Best on Face-Offs:
Eastern Conference:
1. Zach Gallant, Peterborough Petes (36) – finished second in 2018-19, second in 2017-18 and first in 2016-17
2. Marco Rossi, Ottawa 67’s (23)
3. Cole Schwindt, Mississauga Steelheads (12)
Western Conference:
T-1. Ty Dellandrea, Flint Firebirds (29) – finished first in 2018-19
T-1. Jason Willms, London Knights (29) – finished first in Eastern Conference in 2018-19
2. Greg Meireles, Kitchener Rangers (9)
3. Cam Hillis, Guelph Storm (8)

Best Body Checker:
Eastern Conference:
1. Navrin Mutter, Hamilton Bulldogs (29) – finished second in 2018-19
2. Macauley Carson, Sudbury Wolves (18)
3. Kevin Bahl, Ottawa 67’s (14)
Western Conference:
1. Tyler Tucker, Flint Firebirds (23) – finished first in Eastern Conference in 2018-19, third in Eastern Conference in 2017-18
2. Kelton Hatcher, Sarnia Sting (15) – finished second in 2018-19
3. Mark Woolley, Owen Sound Attack (14)

Best Shot Blocker:
Eastern Conference:
T-1. Nikita Okhotyuk, Ottawa 67’s (21) – finished third in 2018-19
T-1. Jacob Paquette, Peterborough Petes (21)
2. Macauley Carson, Sudbury Wolves (18) – finished tied for first in 2018-19
3. Mason Howard, Niagara IceDogs (10)
Western Conference:
1. Luke Boka, Windsor Spitfires (25) – finished first in 2018-19 and 2017-18
2. Tyler Tucker, Flint Firebirds (19)
3. Fedor Gordeev, Guelph Storm (14)

Best Defensive Forward:
Eastern Conference:
1. Kyle MacLean, Oshawa Generals (24) – finished first in 2018-19
2. Marco Rossi, Ottawa 67’s (21)
3. Macauley Carson, Sudbury Wolves (19)
Western Conference:
1. Damien Giroux, Saginaw Spirit (25) – finished second in 2018-19
2. Liam Foudy, London Knights (21)
3. Cam Hillis, Guelph Storm (15)

Best Penalty Killer:
Eastern Conference:
1. Kyle MacLean, Oshawa Generals (24)
2. Jacob Paquette, Peterborough Petes (16)
3. Marco Rossi, Ottawa 67’s (15)
Western Conference:
1. Liam Foudy, London Knights (41) – finished first in 2018-19
2. DJ Busdeker, Saginaw Spirit (12)
3. Keegan Stevenson, Guelph Storm (9)

Best Offensive Defenceman:
Eastern Conference:
1. Noel Hoefenmayer, Ottawa 67’s (45) – finished third in 2018-19
2. Thomas Harley, Mississauga Steelheads (22) – finished first in 2018-19
3. Declan Chisholm (Peterborough Petes (18)
Western Conference:
1. Ryan Merkley, London Knights (41) – finished second in Eastern Conference in 2018-19
2. Jamie Drysdale, Erie Otters (22)
3. Brady Lyle, Owen Sound Attack (15)

Best Defensive Defenceman:
Eastern Conference:
1. Kevin Bahl, Ottawa 67’s (45)
2. Nico Gross, Oshawa Generals (19)
3. Jacob Paquette, Peterborough Petes (17) – finished first in 2018-19
Western Conference:
1. Alec Regula, London Knights (28)
2. Michael Vukojevic, Kitchener Rangers (20)
3. Connor Corcoran, Windsor Spitfires (17)

Best Puck-Handling Goaltender:
Eastern Conference:
1. Kai Edmonds, Mississauga Steelheads (26)
2. Zachary Roy, Hamilton Bulldogs (17)
3. Christian Propp, Kingston Frontenacs (16)
Western Conference:
1. Nico Daws, Guelph Storm (35)
2. Jacob Ingham, Kitchener Rangers (33)
3. Tristan Lennox, Saginaw Spirit (8)

Best Shootout Shooter:
Eastern Conference:
1. Marco Rossi, Ottawa 67’s (29)
2. Nick Robertson, Peterborough Petes (23)
3. Philip Tomasino, Oshawa Generals (12)
Western Conference:
1. Cole Perfetti, Saginaw Spirit (25)
2. Liam Hawel, Kitchener Rangers (21)
3. Pavel Gogolev, Guelph Storm (18)

Best Shootout Goaltender:
Eastern Conference:
1. Cedrick Andree, Ottawa 67’s (32)
2. Hunter Jones, Peterborough Petes (23)
3. Marco Costantini, Hamilton Bulldogs (14)
Western Conference:
1. Jacob Ingham, Kitchener Rangers (39) – finished third in Eastern Conference in 2018-19
2. Nico Daws, Guelph Storm (23)
3. Anthony Popovich, Flint Firebirds (8)

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

I don't think Perrault's game is going to translate that well. He doesn't have the best hockey sense and hasn't really figured out how to use his speed at 5 on 5. He's kind of the poor man's version of Quinn and Foerster to me. He's got the skating and shot to do what Quinn does, but he can't do it consistently and he's got that pure sniper shot like Foerster, but he doesn't get open as much and doesn't have the shot selection Foerster has.

I wouldn't be against taking Perrault, but I'd probably be looking at the other skill forwards in that range first.


And yeah, Byfield's game is kind of quiet for someone that highly touted. He kind of just goes about his business for most of the game and then he'll have a shift where he holds the puck for a minute in the offensive zone and dunks on someone. I think a lot of his value just comes from projecting him at the next level. That size, skill and skating package is so rare. He'll need to kick his motor up a gear and get more consistent to really live up to that draft position.

Any idea why Perrault is consistently ranked ahead of Foerster? I'd say he's ~20 spots higher on average. Is is just the difference in skating?

Yes, that's the sense I get from Byfield. Stutzle and Rossi are right up there with him for 2nd overall for me.

 

[Soli]

2019-20 OHL Coaches Poll Winners – Ontario Hockey League

Lots of draft eligibles in there.

My boy "Carson McCauley" collecting a bunch of praise haha.

 

[Llamamoto]

2019-20 OHL Coaches Poll Winners – Ontario Hockey League

Lots of draft eligibles in there.

Rossi and Perfetti getting a lot of love here. Jack Quinn with a few mentions as well.

 

[McDNicks17]

Any idea why Perrault is consistently ranked ahead of Foerster? I'd say he's ~20 spots higher on average. Is is just the difference in skating?

Yes, that's the sense I get from Byfield. Stutzle and Rossi are right up there with him for 2nd overall for me.

Yeah, I'd say it's probably skating. I think this is a case where skating gets way overrated too because he doesn't really use it.

Perrault is also a bit more of a name brand after putting up 30 goals last year as well.

 

[McDNicks17]

I think Gunler is still my top choice if he slips to the mid-late 1st.

 

[Llamamoto]

I think Gunler is still my top choice if he slips to the mid-late 1st.

He and Quinn would be both be ideal picks.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

I think Gunler is still my top choice if he slips to the mid-late 1st.

Lol what was that turnover at 0:12?

Yeah, he'd be a great pick. There are a number of right-shot snipers in our range this year.

 

[Llamamoto]

I think Gunler is still my top choice if he slips to the mid-late 1st.

He's also 6'2 and 174 pounds. He should still fill out, and he'll be able to use his frame in the NHL.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

I was wondering if its a"good time" to do a mock draft??

@Soli @Joey Moss

 

[Soli]

I was wondering if its a"good time" to do a mock draft??

@Soli @Joey Moss

I gave it some thought a few days ago but I've always tried to wait for as accurate a draft order to the real thing. Buckle in boys, might be awhile.

 

[780il]

I think Gunler is still my top choice if he slips to the mid-late 1st.

Agreed. Gunler, followed by Quinn.

 

[Soli]

Push the Gunler attitude narrative out there, he will be ours.

I hear he insists to be referred to him as "The Gun Show", he makes a point of adding his coaches daughters on Snapchat, and that he regularly practices social distancing from teammates.