GDT: The Draft Lottery Sucks - Coyotes Get #5 Pick

[Plub]

Does he stay out of the penalty box or does his edge include lots of penalty minutes. Honest question cause I don't know.

He's not like his brother in being a shit disturber. He's just physical without the antics.

 

[FinnishCoyote]

I want to draft Wahlstrom. RHS sniper is our biggest need after 1C

 

[rt]

Keller can play RW and has more experience there anyway. Martinook is a career 4th liner and shouldn’t be given much consideration. Crouse at this point will be lucky to be Martinook.

 

[Bonsai Tree]

That’s illogical. But I’m right there with you. I probably like Quinn Hughes 4th best in this draft. But he’s a left shot LD. I like Dahlin 1st best and I don’t care that he’s a left shot because he’s a RD. How dumb is that? I even like Svechnikov 2nd and Zadina 3rd and they’re LHS but they’re RW. Why is Tkachuk being LW so off putting? I don’t know, but I’m right there with you.

Ah, the temptation of putting need over BPA. Please, follow the draft board and go BPA.

 

[rt]

He's not like his brother in being a **** disturber. He's just physical without the antics.

Brady? I don’t know man. I’ve watched a handful of BU and USA games this year and other teams definitely want to murderlize him. I’m trying to remember which game it was (maybe Quinnipac?) where he looked exactly like Cory Perry looked against us in that game early this season that ruined our team.

 

[hbk]

Brady? I don’t know man. I’ve watched a handful of BU and USA games this year and other teams definitely want to murderlize him. I’m trying to remember which game it was (maybe Quinnipac?) where he looked exactly like Cory Perry looked against us in that game early this season that ruined our team.

Does Perry have 1 or 2 Stanley Cup rings?

 

[Jamieh]

Does Perry have 1 or 2 Stanley Cup rings?

He has one but I could see why It's hard to remember, it was 11 years ago!!!!

 

[moosemeister]

Ah, the temptation of putting need over BPA. Please, follow the draft board and go BPA.

This is why I’m pro Wahlstrom. He’s likely gonna be better than Brady and fits a huge need.

 

[IPreferPi]

Ah, the temptation of putting need over BPA. Please, follow the draft board and go BPA.

I agree, the need for certain intangibles doesn't overcome a significant gap in production between two 17 year olds. BPA, please.

 

[_Del_]

Because

Domi
Keller
Perlini
Martinook
Crouse

Where as RW is
Panik

I still think Domi is gone. Perlini is great, but not a consistent contributor by any means. Will anyone be shocked if he doesn't put it together? Crouse tops out as a great third liner. Why in the world would you factor Martinook at the draft? He's a fourth liner. Maybe third if he gets his act together or second lined if Tippett gets a job. You wouldn't not add a right wing because you have Rinaldo on the roster. You shouldn't weigh any of that anyway, but even if you ignore BPA, I don't see a compelling reason to not take a good LW prospect.

Add the best player available. My vote is Wahlstrom or Tkachuk.

I'm biased against D selections in the first half of the first round because I think it's harder to add impact forwards past that than it is for D which is less predictable. Sort of an extension of my "never draft a goalie on the first two rounds"-rule, but far softer. I would still take a D if I thought he was clearly BPA, but if the margin is razor thin, the toss up goes to the forward on opportunity cost.

I trust the scouting brain-trust far more than years past, so it will be easy to get excited even if they take Bouchard, Boqvist, etc. I have watched very little this year, so my opinions are pretty soft.

 

[rt]

Does Perry have 1 or 2 Stanley Cup rings?

I don’t dislike Tkachuk. I would never argue that Perry isn’t an effective player. I’d consider taking Perry 1st overall in this draft probably if I was guaranteed the next Perry exactly. I wasn’t saying Tkachuk is a bad player and I wasn’t saying Perry is a bad player. The BeSeeingYouSeattle said that Brady didn’t stir the post like Matt. I’m saying he does. Matt was not THIS much of a rat as an amateur either. I’m sure Brady will be exactly as nasty as Matt. That’s all I’m saying.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

Yes, Brady will be just as nasty as Matt. But we have some nasty, could use a little more, but we're missing goal scoring by a landslide and a couple prospects in this draft score goals at a better rate than anyone else.

 

[hbk]

I don’t dislike Tkachuk. I would never argue that Perry isn’t an effective player. I’d consider taking Perry 1st overall in this draft probably if I was guaranteed the next Perry exactly. I wasn’t saying Tkachuk is a bad player and I wasn’t saying Perry is a bad player. The BeSeeingYouSeattle said that Brady didn’t stir the post like Matt. I’m saying he does. Matt was not THIS much of a rat as an amateur either. I’m sure Brady will be exactly as nasty as Matt. That’s all I’m saying.

Matt is a rat. Brady is a bull.

 

[rt]

Yes, Brady will be just as nasty as Matt. But we have some nasty, could use a little more, but we're missing goal scoring by a landslide and a couple prospects in this draft score goals at a better rate than anyone else.

What we’re missing most is elite talent. Tkachuk isn’t that, I don’t think. Is Dobson? I don’t know. Hughes could be. Wahlstrom maybe. Possibly Bouchard.

 

[STHLM]

Greetings from the Rangers board,
Would you guys be open to trading your pick to NY and if so, for What? Ex Zucc (retained) + TBL/BOS 1st, or is more needed?

 

[cobra427]

I agree, the need for certain intangibles doesn't overcome a significant gap in production between two 17 year olds. BPA, please.

Agreed. Always take BPA, don't draft for need.

 

[moosemeister]

Agreed. Always take BPA, don't draft for need.

Who is your BPA?

 

[Mosby]

Yes, Brady will be just as nasty as Matt. But we have some nasty, could use a little more, but we're missing goal scoring by a landslide and a couple prospects in this draft score goals at a better rate than anyone else.

Who? Maybe Crouse, if he's in the NHL. I think Fischer is closer to mild than wild.

 

[rt]

Greetings from the Rangers board,
Would you guys be open to trading your pick to NY and if so, for What? Ex Zucc (retained) + TBL/BOS 1st, or is more needed?

Wait? What? You’ve got a 31 year old winger with a single year left on his contract you’d like to pair up with the 31st overall pick for one in the Top 5?

 

[Heldig]

Man...this is a tuff one.

Absolutley loved Tkachuk's game at the WJC. He was fantastic. The rest of his year was not as impressive. Wahlstrom has shot up everyone's list as one of the best goal scorers available. His play away from the puck at the U18 was a bot concerning. Tendency to float. And that whiff with 1 second on the clock in the gold medal game He is a goal scorer and those are hard to find.

Then there is the group of Dmen. I probably favour Bouchard. ATM.

I feel one of Montreal or Ottawa are going to go a bit off the board and maybe make the decision easier for Chayka ie Montreal taking Tkachuk and Ottawa taking Boqvist (the next Karlsson?) leaving Zadina available.

 

[IPreferPi]

Man...this is a tuff one.

Absolutley loved Tkachuk's game at the WJC. He was fantastic. The rest of his year was not as impressive. Wahlstrom has shot up everyone's list as one of the best goal scorers available. His play away from the puck at the U18 was a bot concerning. Tendency to float. And that whiff with 1 second on the clock in the gold medal game He is a goal scorer and those are hard to find.

I’ve read similar criticism of Zadina regarding his off puck play. Very few 17-18 year olds are refined products in those areas.

You can significant develop and improve play away from the puck, but you can’t really develop goal scoring to the same extent. With few exceptions, you either have it or you don’t.

 

[rt]

I definitely like Zadina a whole he’ll of a lot more than Wahlstrom. Completely different class of prospect.

I really can’t decide between Wahlstrom, Hughes, Tkachuk, Bouchard, Boqvist and Dobson, though.

 

[STHLM]

Wait? What? You’ve got a 31 year old winger with a single year left on his contract you’d like to pair up with the 31st overall pick for one in the Top 5?

I’m just trying to understand how high the offer would be, what would you want from the Rangers for the 5th?

 

[Llewzaher]

Greetings from the Rangers board,
Would you guys be open to trading your pick to NY and if so, for What? Ex Zucc (retained) + TBL/BOS 1st, or is more needed?

I think you guys have the 9th overall so that would have to come into play to start ...

 

[IPreferPi]

I definitely like Zadina a whole he’ll of a lot more than Wahlstrom. Completely different class of prospect.

Zadina is more refined overall than Wahlstrom, although both are opportunistic scorers. I like Zadina a bit more but the gap between him and Wahlstrom is smaller than the gap between them and Svechnikov.