ShaneFalco
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ACC1224 says there's a 50% chance he doesn't.
Yeah but do you have "sources" ?
ACC1224 says there's a 50% chance he doesn't.
Yes, I too listen to the voices in my head.Yeah but do you have "sources" ?
Were we a contender? 100% we fit in that area. What top team is not? We were not a favourite for the cup, but there is often so many first round upsets that helps teams win the cup when they were not.
Ek is saying 50% chance JVR stays/re-signs
At the time of what? When they had 105, the season was over. If you mean the TDL then sure, the optics of a trade at that time would have been terrible but at one point in Jan, they were 16th overall and they could have chosen to make a move then.
They didn't want to weaken the team for picks - yes, that was the choice they made and I'm fine with it. Probably not what I would have done (depending on the return we gave up on) but ... I'm fine with it.
obviously at the deadline. i believe they were 5th or 6th then, and JVR couldnt stop scoring.
surely a guy getting 34g on the 3rd line 15mins a night is more useful to a team this year than picks.
leafs have to break the cycle of losing. dont wanna end up like buffalo or even worse, edmonton.
JVR probably walks...but its not like we gain nothing. we gain 4.25 cap space. add in bozak and komarov
and its 11+ million on guys playing in our top 6 and all we have to do is a) slide nylander to C, or B) bring in decent 3C
I hope not - but the chances are pretty slim
I was one of few that were pretty vocal to trade - will see
Any thoughts?
I hope not. No thanks.Ek is saying 50% chance JVR stays/re-signs
The real question is:
1) Is Plekanec having a better playoffs than Moore/Aaltonen would have?
2) Is JVR having a better playoffs than Johnsson/Leivo would have?
3) Is Komarov having a better playoffs than Martin/Grundstrom would have?
If the answer is no....than were out a 1st + 2nd + 2nd + 3rd for nothing.
If the answer is yes....than meh.
Well, he said the poll was a year old. I don't remember it but if given the choice, even with Walk, I'd have gone with traded summer of 17. But my next option would be Walk. (Or, not re-signed. However you wanna look at it.)How is that an I told you so? Pretty much everyone expected JVR to walk unless we weren't in playoff contention.
You know we finished last 2 years ago right? Who said this tam is "finished?"With your "hidden meaning" logic i could quite easily say "it sends a message that we think you can win even without JVR" but its not about that.
Its not about "sending a message" or implying anything to the team. Its about assessing what you've got and where you think it can get you.
We have a deep pool of wingers, some are more than NHL ready and whether the fairweather fans like it or not we are not a cup contender, simple as. So if your best chance to improve the team for the future means selling JVR today then personally id take it.
There are many reasons for and against, which is fine, thats why im not calling for Lou's job like the rest of the Mob were after two losses, he knows the temperature of the room a hell of a lot better than any of us and i have complete faith.
Whether you're being intentionally condescending or just misunderstanding my post, sitting at 7th in the league and thinking your done is exactly what breeds mediocrity, and finishing the season with a 7th place finish and no cup and planning the parade is what keeps you in the Caps position for the next 10 years.
Oh boy.The real question is:
1) Is Plekanec having a better playoffs than Moore/Aaltonen would have?
2) Is JVR having a better playoffs than Johnsson/Leivo would have?
3) Is Komarov having a better playoffs than Martin/Grundstrom would have?
If the answer is no....than were out a 1st + 2nd + 2nd + 3rd for nothing.
If the answer is yes....than meh.
Not all UFAs are created equal. Bozak/Komarov/Polak < JVR.Let's be honest, the OP and everyone else who agrees changes their minds if JVR scores a big goal tonight and the Leafs win.
A top 5 NHl team should trade all it's UFAs for picks. Crazy talk.
Right now when you talk about having traded JVR, people are just thinking about no JVR on this team at the moment.If we win this series. Absolutely not, you have a great experience. Totally worth it.
If we lose this series in 7, I would say it's not terrible because it gives them game 7 type experience.
If we lose in 5 or 6, personally I don't think we gained enough experience for the price paid and will argue that we could have got the same experience if we sold early and say used the proceeds for a T4D. This team was essentially a lock for the PO for a quite some time and even the Boston Tor match was expected for a very very long time. Lou for sure could have said 3 weeks earlier JVR is available instead of not available and went from there.
You know we finished last 2 years ago right? Who said this tam is "finished?"
Why can't people understand that we have a good team and good teams don't sell at the deadline?
People say the Leafs are so deep that watching these UFAs walk means nothing. If they;re so deep, and if they knew that JVR wasn't going to be in the long-term picture, wouldn't it then have been wise to move him in the summer to address the needs they did have (D and C)? Presumably, with their depth, others could have stepped in for JVR.
If the deals not there, the deals not there.
Whilst i am of the opinion that JVR could have netted us some important assets at the deadline, i wouldnt take a bag of pucks and ****ty prospect for him.