OT - NO POLITICS The Coronavirus Covid-19

[Spooner st]

Sick People Across the U.S. Say They Are Being Denied the Coronavirus Test

In a health care system that is already difficult to navigate, some patients describe Kafkaesque quests for tests.

BOSTON — First came the tickle in the throat. Then, a hacking cough. Then, a shortness of breath she had never experienced before. Hillary King, a 32-year-old consultant in Boston who lives down the street from a hotel where dozens of Biogen executives contracted the new coronavirus, decided that she had better get tested.
But getting tested is far easier said than done, even as testing slowly ramps up nationwide. Five days after President Trump announced that anyone who wants a test can get a test, Ms. King’s experience shows how difficult it can be in the United States to find out if you have the coronavirus.

Sick People Across the U.S. Say They Are Being Denied the Coronavirus Test

 

[Spooner st]

Startup Aims to Produce 10,000 COVID-19 Kits a Day at Los Angeles Lab


At a 10,000 square foot San Dimas lab, Fred Turner is furiously trying to save people from COVID-19.
The head of a Bay Area startup known as Curative Inc. arrived in Los Angeles Wednesday, on a near empty flight, as he launched a production facility to produce coronavirus testing kits. They'll be deployed to drive-thru testing centers across the United States, which National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci said was severely lagging other countries in determining how widespread the virus is.
Turner's startup is "aiming to add 10,000 test per day capacity in about two weeks," he said. "We can now do 50 a day, by Monday 150, and the end of the week 1,000 a day."

This Startup Launched a Facility in L.A. to Produce Much-Needed Coronavirus Test Kits for the City

 

[Blowfish]

There is no end in sight unless a vaccine is discovered and the earliest the vaccine could be available is 1 year....Yikes

How does the coronavirus outbreak end?

That’s still a big unknown. “Just because some respiratory diseases, like flu, demonstrate seasonality doesn’t mean that Covid-19 will,” Maimuna Majumder, a Harvard epidemiologist, says. She and colleagues recently published an early version of a paper (which has not been peer-reviewed) that found that changes in weather across China did not seem to impact the course of the outbreak.

How this outbreak could truly end: With a vaccine

To end this outbreak, for good, we’ll need antiviral treatments or a vaccine. Those are currently being produced, and at record speeds. Researchers are working on new vaccine technologies — like mRNA vaccines that don’t use viruses at all in their production process — as well as cutting-edge therapeutic antibodies.
That said, it still could be a year or more before the safety and efficacy of these pharmaceuticals are proven. In medicine, effectiveness is not guaranteed.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

There is no end in sight unless a vaccine is discovered and the earliest the vaccine could be available is 1 year....Yikes

How does the coronavirus outbreak end?

That’s still a big unknown. “Just because some respiratory diseases, like flu, demonstrate seasonality doesn’t mean that Covid-19 will,” Maimuna Majumder, a Harvard epidemiologist, says. She and colleagues recently published an early version of a paper (which has not been peer-reviewed) that found that changes in weather across China did not seem to impact the course of the outbreak.

How this outbreak could truly end: With a vaccine

To end this outbreak, for good, we’ll need antiviral treatments or a vaccine. Those are currently being produced, and at record speeds. Researchers are working on new vaccine technologies — like mRNA vaccines that don’t use viruses at all in their production process — as well as cutting-edge therapeutic antibodies.
That said, it still could be a year or more before the safety and efficacy of these pharmaceuticals are proven. In medicine, effectiveness is not guaranteed.

But while being very contagious, it's not really deadly. So while a year is a long time, at least it's a long time for something that isn't killing people left and right.

 

[Gee Wally]

But while being very contagious, it's not really deadly. So while a year is a long time, at least it's a long time for something that isn't killing people left and right.

Currently 2.3% overall, and 15% in those 80 +
That is quite a bit and it has yet to plateau. Once cases exceed beds the percentages will rise. We here are weeks behind other countries and slower to react.

 

[Dueling Banjos]

Currently 2.3% overall, and 15% in those 80 +
That is quite a bit and it has yet to plateau. Once cases exceed beds the percentages will rise. We here are weeks behind other countries and slower to react.

I don't want to be negative about it but Italian scenario seems very real and probable in the upcoming weeks, hopefully not months.

 

[Seidenbergy]

Currently 2.3% overall, and 15% in those 80 +
That is quite a bit and it has yet to plateau. Once cases exceed beds the percentages will rise. We here are weeks behind other countries and slower to react.

But they know for a fact that those numbers are inflated because of the lack of testing. They have no clue how many people had/have this and had no issues or symptoms and are fine now. You can't have an accurate percentage when one of the two variables could be waaaaay off.

 

[Spooner st]

There is no end in sight unless a vaccine is discovered and the earliest the vaccine could be available is 1 year....Yikes

How does the coronavirus outbreak end?

That’s still a big unknown. “Just because some respiratory diseases, like flu, demonstrate seasonality doesn’t mean that Covid-19 will,” Maimuna Majumder, a Harvard epidemiologist, says. She and colleagues recently published an early version of a paper (which has not been peer-reviewed) that found that changes in weather across China did not seem to impact the course of the outbreak.

How this outbreak could truly end: With a vaccine

To end this outbreak, for good, we’ll need antiviral treatments or a vaccine. Those are currently being produced, and at record speeds. Researchers are working on new vaccine technologies — like mRNA vaccines that don’t use viruses at all in their production process — as well as cutting-edge therapeutic antibodies.
That said, it still could be a year or more before the safety and efficacy of these pharmaceuticals are proven. In medicine, effectiveness is not guaranteed.

With social distancing we can flattened the curve. Its pretty much the hope right now. The most difficult will be to have everyone on board. That's where the most successful countries are...everyone follow the rules.

 

[Spooner st]

But they know for a fact that those numbers are inflated because of the lack of testing. They have no clue how many people had/have this and had no issues or symptoms and are fine now. You can't have an accurate percentage when one of the two variables could be waaaaay off.

Yes, but in the end it will be anywhere from 0.5 to 2% the low end is in countries that have healthy populations.

 

[Spooner st]

I don't want to be negative about it but Italian scenario seems very real and probable in the upcoming weeks, hopefully not months.

Up till now it's the most probable scenario. Italy has a very good health system. Problem is they all got sick at same time, and there's no stopping it now. It's still surging.

 

[Seidenbergy]

Yes, but in the end it will be anywhere from 0.5 to 2% the low end is in countries that have healthy populations.

It'll likely be no different from the seasonal flu was before we had shots for it.

 

[5Jack0]

Italian health ministry reports the average age of a victim of Corona is nearly 81. Only the sickest go the Dr at first which heightens mortality rates. Once testing and reporting catches up the death rate will plummet. This is still dangerous and you should definitely take precaution especially if you are older but this hysteria is a little silly

 

[Spooner st]

It'll likely be no different from the seasonal flu was before we had shots for it.

Not for the US. The US will be higher than the 2.4%. Italy is at 6.6%

 

[HockeyMomx2]

First case in my little town in Southern Germany confirmed, on my street a few houses down the road.

Put your house in a bubble and stay there!

 

[Spooner st]

Italian health ministry reports the average age of a victim of Corona is nearly 81. Only the sickest go the Dr at first which heightens mortality rates. Once testing and reporting catches up the death rate will plummet. This is still dangerous and you should definitely take precaution especially if you are older but this hysteria is a little silly

Better be safe than sorry is one thing. The other you could be wrong. Then what?

 

[Seidenbergy]

Not for the US. The US will be higher than the 2.4%. Italy is at 6.6%

Those numbers aren't accurate.

 

[Spooner st]

Test per million are eye popping.

 

[Gordoff]

Up till now it's the most probable scenario. Italy has a very good health system. Problem is they all got sick at same time, and there's no stopping it now. It's still surging.

Having first hand knowledge of this via relatives who live there, I can say this is bullshit!

 

[Spooner st]

Those numbers aren't accurate.

Ok, Will see.

Edit: For the US it's a projection, for Italy it's the numbers they have up till now. reported cases versus deaths.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Better be safe than sorry is one thing. The other you could be wrong. Then what?

Can't believe how reckless people are. Everything
I have read/watched its new and deadlier than
flu. So no vaccine + unknown path of this
virus playing out makes this a no brainer.

On an other subject, should nursing schools
and MD schools be accelerating there academic
pace and co-ordinating with Health Depts?

 

[Spooner st]

Having first hand knowledge of this via relatives who live there, I can say this is bullshit!

It is in a normal setting. It's also for the Lombardy region where the hotter spot is. Where are your relatives?

 

[Spooner st]

Can't believe how reckless people are. Everything
I have read/watched its new and deadlier than
flu. So no vaccine + unknown path of this
virus playing out makes this a no brainer.

On an other subject, should nursing schools
and MD schools be accelerating there academic
pace and co-ordinating with Health Depts?

Everywhere they are asking for retirees to come back and help.

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

I'm not trying to make any political statement, but it sure seems like the response from people towards the government is pure confirmation bias. If people already liked the powers that be, they're more likely to claim that they're doing a bang-up job and going to save lives and the economy. If people are predisposed to like the opposition, then they're likely to claim that they're slow to act and putting lives in danger or whatever. It's like there's no objectivity anymore.

Singapore is notoriously repressive about public order and arrest people for littering. Of course they're well prepared to contain contagion.

It's the age old question, how much of your freedom are you willing to surrender for security?

Did you read the article?

Delicious.

 

[Scotto74]

even once we get through this how many of us are going to lose jobs and get into financial trouble due to this.

This is going to be a long, long recovery process once it runs its course.

I hope we all stay healthy and I hope none of us lose jobs, houses and such due to this.


I stopped into walmart on the way home yesterday to pick up some coffee creamer and it was like a war zone.

What a disaster.

 

[5Jack0]

Better be safe than sorry is one thing. The other you could be wrong. Then what?

Wrong about the death rate? The cruise that originated in Wuhan had less than 20% of the people in board catch the virus and every single person on board was tested. The only deaths were 8 people all over the age of 70.Thats about the only controlled test case this thing has so far. I’m not saying let’s pretend like nothings wrong, that the media hysteria over this is silly. It a bug that will disproportionately kill the elderly.